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On the sixth day of Ukraine’s advance into Kursk Oblast in southern Russia, there’s growing evidence the Ukrainian invasion corpssome or all of up to five 2,000-person brigades plus at least one 400-person independent battalion—plans to stay.

The Ukrainians are digging trenches. Anticipating static warfare along or near the existing front line, the Russians are digging in, too.

That both sides are fortifying their positions doesn’t mean the Ukrainians are done advancing. Nor does it mean the Russians can’t counterattack—and push the Ukrainians back to the border, 10 miles away.

But it does mean that stabilization of the front line—and a long-term Ukrainian occupation of part of Kursk—is on the table.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago

God I hope Russia actually loses territory on official maps. That'd be humiliating for Putin and his home turf.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

On the sixth day of Ukraine’s advance into Kursk Oblast in southern Russia, there’s growing evidence the Ukrainian invasion corpssome or all of up to five 2,000-person brigades plus at least one 400-person independent battalion—plans to stay.

Anyone else sing this to the tune of that Christmas carol?

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Gotta say that I'm unfamiliar with any Christmas carols that could use the lyrics "some or all of up to five 2,000-person brigades plus at least one 400-person independent battalion—plans to stay"

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 23 points 1 month ago

Well did you try adding “and a partridge in a pear tree” at the end?

[–] einkorn 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I guess the idea is to force a simple trade of occupied territories.

Let's hope for a fast conclusion.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm guessing they're trying to draw resources from the Ukrainian front, which might allow them to reclaim territory.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All of the above. It's a brilliant play.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And if they get attacked, just retreat slowly to minimize casualties and then make another incursion on the opposite end of the country. But I'm sooo hoping that they retain the land.

[–] Synthuir@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Kamchatka front when?

[–] einkorn 12 points 1 month ago

Yes of course. Given that Russia has only been able to make minimal territorial gains given their current troops distribution, it is questionable to me whether they can continue or even hold these gains with more stretched out lines.

Facing more or less permanent occupation of actual Russian territories Putin might be actually willing to negotiate.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

They're also moving into higher ground, which will be difficult to dislodge them from once they're appropriately entrenched.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

These guys have some exciting plays, but I just hope it’s not a suicide mission. There needs to be an escape route or plan

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Like F16s patrolling the area and more international NATO troops in Ukraine so Ukrainian troops can mobilize to ruzzia.

[–] notsofunnycomment@mander.xyz 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I read somewhere that within Russia Ukrainian troops would be more vulnerable to the Russian Air Force?

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Probably part of the reason Ukraine is asking for permission to use ATACMS inside Russia. They got an airbase right next to their attack vector and probably would've annihilated a bunch of planes if they'd gotten permission low-key

[–] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

F-16s baby 😎