this post was submitted on 12 Aug 2024
44 points (94.0% liked)

UK Politics

3015 readers
114 users here now

General Discussion for politics in the UK.
Please don't post to both !uk_politics@feddit.uk and !unitedkingdom@feddit.uk .
Pick the most appropriate, and put it there.

Posts should be related to UK-centric politics, and should be either a link to a reputable news source for news, or a text post on this community.

Opinion pieces are also allowed, provided they are not misleading/misrepresented/drivel, and have proper sources.

If you think "reputable news source" needs some definition, by all means start a meta thread. (These things should be publicly discussed)

Posts should be manually submitted, not by bot. Link titles should not be editorialised.

Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.
Message the mods if you feel something really should be removed, or if a user seems to have a pattern of awful comments.

!ukpolitics@lemm.ee appears to have vanished! We can still see cached content from this link, but goodbye I guess! :'(

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 26 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Bassman27@lemmy.world 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nothing screams ethnic minority more than middle aged white men

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 20 points 1 month ago

I mean technically its Middle to old age "Wealthy" white people(women fox hunt as well).

That word "Wealthy" sure as hell puts them in a minority. And the cousin fuckers are so inbred, it's hard to argue they are not ethnically unique from other poor white folk.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 month ago

And just like that I became a racist.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 27 points 1 month ago

They are highly inbred, so they may well have diverged sufficiently far from the rest of humanity to be classified as a separate species.

[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Speaking to the FieldsportsChannel podcast, Swales said: “The qualifications of an ethnic group, there are five of them, and we hit everyone straight in the bullseye.”

I'm looking forward to hearing this unpacked in court. Either the law is an ass, or it will be incredibly funny.

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

If you're looking to define a new 'visible minority that suffers online abuse and real-life violence based upon hatred of an out-group', I'd suggest that cyclists would have a better claim!

[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yep, I have been assaulted many times in many ways for being a cyclist.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Get the fuck out of the way, I am driving here.

Disabled people!

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 21 points 1 month ago

Well sound reasonable. Once they gain ethnic minority status. The next Tory gov can ship them to Rwanda?

[–] Dufurson@fedia.io 17 points 1 month ago
[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago

From the dipshittery that brought you "corporations are people","pizza is a vegetable", and "capybaras are fish"

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 11 points 1 month ago

What a complete twist of words. Buncha cunts

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 9 points 1 month ago

They'll definitely try and have "gammon" classified as an ethnic slur.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 8 points 1 month ago

Bad time to try that tactic.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

I would go beyond that and say they are definitely a mutant subspecies.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Something you are is a protected class something you do never is

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

I have babysat more mature 3-year-olds who recognize “but I waaaaaannnnaaaa” is not a valid argument.

[–] wingsfortheirsmiles@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago

Only if the foxes can be a protected ethnic minority too

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'd like to see what exactly their argument is.

Swales said: “The outcome of that from the human rights silk is that as a protected minority group under the Equality Act, we qualify, undoubtedly 10 out of 10.”

The idea that legally they could be considered a protected minority isn't entirely farfetched, since it includes "religion or belief", and IIRC "belief" has been found in the past to include vegans and gender critical feminists.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 9 points 1 month ago

Although vegans and gender critical feminists have never been allowed to break laws. The closest we see is helmet laws for Sikhs and very very limited knife carry laws for other religions. And those are all based on a religiose requirement well documented within their culture.

It will be interesting to see how these people manage to claim the right to kill foxes is somehow a long held requirement. Mainly because it will make any common activity amongst a group of people impossible to legislate against.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago

They sound like they're a bit muddled about how the Equality Act actually works though, bless them, based on this other quote from the same article:

"The qualifications of an ethnic group, there are five of them, and we hit everyone straight in the bullseye."

There are another few instances where the guy specifically says "ethnic group", and I even chased up the source to check it wasn't just rubbish reporting, because as you highlight, it's not too farfetched that they might be considered a protected minority group, but that's entirely different than them being considered a minority ethnic group.

Unsurprised that the pro-fox-hunting people have more money than sense. I imagine their lawyers are better versed on the equality act than their spokesman, and are making the beliefs argument rather than the ethnic minority one.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Oh, they genuinely don't know what ethnicity means. That might explain some history.

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

We might have actually found a use for Tommy Robinson and the gammon army

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 1 month ago

I'm genuinely flabbergasted.

https://youtu.be/7cv90tFOUlY