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[–] mongoosedadei@lemmy.world 217 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 79 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If good cops existed, they would shoot these guys.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

The second you say a person's life has limited value, your life becomes limited in value.

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[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 178 points 1 month ago (18 children)
[–] stepan@lemmy.cafe 19 points 1 month ago (35 children)

I know several cops and they are all great people. I live in Europe though, and hating all cops isn't luckily considered normal here.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago

You're just being foolish to trust them.. I'm Canadian and always heard how our cops weren't as bad as American cops, then we had protests in my city and the Canadian police proved they can be every bit as sadistic and psychotic as American cops. So can European cops. Don't let your guards down

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

I know several ex-cops because they saw everyone around them was a bastard, they are great people.

[–] exanime@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I live in Canada and also know several cops who are great people;however, even they would not raise a finger to expose fellow cops who are indeed bastards

That's the problem, it's not a few bad apples, it's a shit ton of them and the few remaining good apples are too afraid or just not care to do anything about the rest

[–] hojomonkey@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

The whole point of "a few bad apples" is that they spoil the bunch. The idiom is "A few bad apples spoils the bunch". Just like keeping bad apples in a basket with good ones ruins them, so too are your "great people" ruined by putting up with the assholes they work with.

[–] abracaDavid@lemmy.today 9 points 1 month ago

Guess what? If you see someone abusing people with their power and you say nothing about it, then you're not a good person. Neutral at best.

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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

It probably helps that in most European countries police training is in the thousands of hours and in America it's under 6 months.

https://www.trainingreform.org/not-enough-training

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[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 80 points 1 month ago (14 children)

People like this deserve one thing only, but saying what they deserve will get you banned from some instances.

I've got a friend who, thanks to close family of hers being a cop, is still unconvinced of cops status as bastards.

It's getting more and more frustrating listening to her justify why other cops don't do anything about these kinds of cops. Still can't accept the ones that do nothing are just as culpable. Accessories, in many cases.

If I stand next to my buddy as he kicks a guy to death, I will be getting jail time too. Why not cops?

This piece of shit deserved prison when he killed someone. His actions after the fact show he has no regard for human life and as such is a danger to others by simply being alive.

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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago

Give them a mile and they still reach for that last extra inch.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 63 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

Nah, A-Train at least felt some remorse and ended up having a breakdown.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 58 points 1 month ago (3 children)

how does a cop not have a license? huh?

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 month ago

Laws for thee but not for me.

OR

Laws for you, not for steaming piles of poo

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[–] Lyrl@lemm.ee 54 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The driver's license thing is misleading - he had an Arizona license, so "didn't have a Washington license", but was still legal to drive.

The department is legally not able to issue any discipline until the investigation concludes, and they are not able to conclude the investigation while the appeals process on the fine plays out. Due process is slow. Hopefully in the end he gets everything coming to him.

[–] bravesilvernest@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn't the issue that he was living and working in Washington but still had an Arizona license? Most states require you to get that changed over within 6-12 months of moving there.

He definitely wasn't commuting...

[–] lemmy_at_em@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You are required to obtain a new driver's license within 30 days of moving to Washington.

https://dol.wa.gov/moving-washington

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[–] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I feel like this is a very naive process that implies due process works, albeit slowly, even for cops who fuck up. It doesn't work because cops, DAs and judges all protect each other.

Also, most insurance companies will nail you for misrepresentation or fraud if your driver's license license address isn't updating accordingly with your current address, because different areas have different likelihoods for accidents.

I just don't get why people are so quick to defend cops or give them the benefit of the doubt over stuff like this.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Manslaughter. But yeah, fuck this guy.

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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

AND their consent decree just ended! But remeber, the CHAZ was liberals trying to overthrow the government. Or something.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

is it bad that the worst thing in this entire situation is the fact that he somehow didnt have a drivers license while on the force?

[–] Kanda@reddthat.com 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I believe the worst thing is that he killed someone, but that's just like my opinion, man.

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[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 month ago

That and, you know, the dead 23 year old.

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[–] BlackDragon@slrpnk.net 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

No, entirely believable. This is what being a cop is all about. You get to do whatever you want and murder whoever you want.

That's just not true. Cops are not allowed to kill important people, like family of important politicians or rich people. There are limits on their power.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 22 points 1 month ago

Dude reminds me of A-Train

[–] TerkErJerbs@lemm.ee 20 points 1 month ago (5 children)
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[–] AShadyRaven@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I will NEVER condone vigilantism or street justice, because its a slippery slope into chaos as people start taking matter into their own hands, possibly harming innocent people just on suspicion of guilt

Unrelated:

heres his full name, birth year, badge number, every unit he's been in, his date of hire, every write up hes had since 2011, and his current salary

https://openoversight.tech-bloc-sea.dev/officers/354

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago

For justice, we must go to Don Corleone.

[–] smb@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

meanwhile in other countries:

https://qcostarica.com/4-police-officers-may-be-fired-or-sent-to-jail-for-running-over-and-killing-dog/

"could lead to their dismissal, assured Zamora, and possible prison time"

and:

"following a complaint from the Police itself, the agents were detained"

my citing is a bit misleading, and you have to read it completely yourself, but overall it looks very different there.

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