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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 104 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This pic never fails to make me laugh. He’s holding onto that table for dear life lmao

[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I bet he's as high as a kite and he's trying to stop the room from spinning

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"I shouldn't have railed all that ketamine"

Putin fucks ketamine confiRmed?!??!??😳😳😳😳😲😲😲😲

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 49 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Putin: Uhh, so, I'll sub in Chechens and Chuchkis. At least the software updates for the missile CNCs still roll in from Germany. Thanks Stalin!

Stalin: You're welcome! I'm waiting in Orthodox hell for you with an open window that drops 100 feet right back into the floor it's on.

Seriously, why haven't we bricked their machine tools as part of sanctions?

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago
[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Same reason Germany still supplies air to surface firebombs that Australians use on Papau New Guineas.

[–] Somethingcheezie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fuck I hate friendlyjordies. How someone so consistently sounds like a smug, condescending twat is beyond me.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 5 points 1 month ago

Their team collected evidence and confronted Thales regional deputy chairmen with the evidence. It's a primary source. Their main presenter you complained about isn't even in the entire segment of that timestamp onwards.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Use, present tense? WTF are you talking about. Those countries are not at war, and in fact have quite active diplomatic relations.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well Australians, likely but not necessarily some sort of government or military entity, supplies the bombs to Indonesia who uses them against Papau New Guinea, and this is well documented that those people are being massacred so I don't appreciate your dismissive attitude, frankly.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Oh, you mean Indonesia and West Papua. Yeah, sorry for the dismissiveness, but I read a lot of crazy geopolitics theories on Lemmy.

I don't think that's the same, actually. That's a brown place where, according to the Western psychology, atrocities are allowed to happen. Ukraine is not, and that's (edit: part of the reason) why every other reasonable lever has been pulled against Russia. It's strange to me that they gouged all the industries that rely on oil before the machine tool industry.

I'm not saying it's right, but it is politically different.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Why, do you want western intervention in West Papua? I mean, I see this with Venezuela too. If we care, we are hypocrites, if we don't, we don't care about human rights, if we care about Ukraine (right on top of EU borders), we are racists, because we only care about "white people"...if we talk about anything outside the western world like Mali...it's imperialism 🤐 . What about Haiti? What about Sudan? What about Houthis? What about Myanmar? Always with the context-free whataboutism. So, what is it? Is there a world police or are there things you leave to the locals to sort out on their own?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'll be honest, it's not a conflict I've followed closely either. Direct Western interventions usually go poorly, though. Arguably because we don't care enough to expose our own people to the risks our allies have to face. All Afghans saw was a giant bunker with a loudspeaker that belted out (broken?) Pashtu about something called "human rights". Not very convincing.

I'm not sure what your position is. Mine is that the world is full of political bullshit and I'm a nobody, so I do whatever small thing I can to make it suck incrementally less. Explaining why freaking out over 9/11 20 years on is dumb when that many people die of worms or whatever each year is part of it. If I was in charge I'd be all about multilateralism and transferring wealth aggressively to the third world where their institutions are strong enough to accept it, but I'm not.

The people talking about "imperialism" in a non-historical context tend to be full of shit. I advise you to not take them too seriously; normal people use different words now that the actual empires are all dead (minus Russia, sort of). The people talking interventionism are almost non-existent post-Afghanistan.

Edit:

So, what is it? Is there a world police or are there things you leave to the locals to sort out on their own?

I'm definitely pro-world police. We're just a good long time from anybody being able to do that effectively.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

My position is simply that no other conflict in the world, including Gaza, can be compared in priority to something that is happening at the scale and in your borders like Ukraine, like you happened to suggest.

I mean, show me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts in this map, which conflicts do you consider useful/ethical/moral/whatever to put in the news or send UN troops to and which ones do you consider "dumb" and ok to ignore?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

I would love it if there was a newscast that weighted coverage by humanitarian impact.

Geopolitics - as in how to manage the politics of the actual non-ideal world order - is unfortunately a separate thing. I'm glad we're confronting Russia, because they did a major escalation and they definitely don't care about human rights. NATO laggards like my own country need to beef up spending.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

I'm not comparing the conflicts by any stretch of the imagination, just shaming some fucked up companies involved in the beds of our enemies the world over.

[–] spechter@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago

They pinky-promised us not to use the machines to produce arms.

Or they were on land-transit to Asia when the official customer, who was on the freight papers when the equipment left the EU, found a customer in russia(n arms industry)

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have a nephew who makes this same face when his diaper is fully loaded.

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And just like my kids, I'm sure your nephew produces putin-tier unspeakable horrors in the process

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He keep talking about liberals and insists I read more Bluey Theory.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

This meme made me ugly laugh

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have you tried consulting Lenin's slowly decomposing corpse?

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Zombie Lenin suggested gtfo Ukraine, so he had him shot and buried again. He's got a team looking for the Romanovs' mass grave now.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

I'd try asking Trotsky about Ukraine, he has experience there and with an ice pick in his brain he's still more competent at strategy than Russian high command

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 9 points 1 month ago

What do you mean, the Ukrainians and American equipment are already there. This is easy!

[–] holycrap@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why does Putin look like he's trying to push out a wet shit but it's stuck?

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

Resting dictator face

[–] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 14 points 1 month ago

Pull out of Ukraine.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If the Generalissimus says so, it must be true!

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 1 month ago

Huh, TIL. I thought that was just a fascist thing, it's an actual rank.