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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Just run Bernie. Biden has blown it and doesn't have a shot any longer. Only you can do this.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bernie has ticker trouble, it's not in the cards for him anymore.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Biden and Trump are not any better.

Its less of a liability than Biden being Biden at this point.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Mentally, Bernie has it over both of them.

Physically, he can't do what's involved in campaigning. I wish it weren't true, but there you go.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

He'd barely need to campaign.

Biden's going to be polling sub 30 after this week.

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The DNC would have made sure he didn't do it. They will take a Trump over a Bernie, at least they can vilify a Trump.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I mean they did. Twice.

Bernie isn't a coward. If he see's the writing on the wall, it might be time to be done being a Democrat.

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Here to resolve your ignorance:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/23/487179496/leaked-democratic-party-emails-show-members-tried-to-undercut-sanders

Regardless of the source, the contents were never contested. The Democrats rigged their primary in 2016 to ratfuck Bernie.

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

To clarify here, I am an avid Bernie supported that drove hours from my small town to go to his rallies and me and my wife donated the max allowed every year he was running. Going back and reading my initial comment I can see where i may have come across on the other side here. Where I said "at least they can vilify Trump" I guess what I was referring to is the Democrats like to hang out in the center, if Trump gets elected he would pull everything to the right, and all the democrats get to just be slightly better than him. Trump lowers the bar and it is easy for them to keep playing the good guy while they keep fucking us. If Bernie was elected, he pulls everything to the left, the democrats become the bad guy, and the jig is up for them. Him running independent doesn't work because the DNC has the money and pull, running as a dem doesn't work because the DNC will never let it happen. i e . we are fucked.

Trump is perfect for them, their overlords get tax breaks, and they get to easily float over the low ass bar that Trump sets for them.

It sounds like we are on the same side, my ignorance is purely in my writing skills.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Thank you for the clarification, I appreciate it.

I spent some time thinking about this, and I'm interested in your take, because I agree with basically everything you say, and especially:

i e . we are fucked.

I truly don't think Biden can win at this point. The way I see it, supporting Biden as a candidate, arguing that he's the lessor of evils, that we just have support him to beat Trump; its not only supporting genocide, its basically committing to a failed strategy because you are too blind to see any other way.

To make it short: I don't think Biden is going to be the nominee. Not after this week. Not after they've been hiding him as much as they have. His cognitive decline is real, and his ludicrous position on Gaza is setting the stage for global conflict.

I'm gonna say that after this week, Biden's polling is going to dip into the thirties, and in 4-6 weeks he'll be polling at 35-40%. He's not going to change his position on Gaza and he can't win the national election with his position on Gaza. The student protests have highlighted that point.

Do you think Biden will be the nominee after his reaction to these student protests?