A Warhammer 40,000 space marine is not just your usual sci-fi super soldier. They are hulking behemoths, 10 feet tall (and about 10 feet wide too). They don't move like people, they move like freight trains. They have the physical bearing of an industrial freezer unit and the emotional intelligence of a crocodile. They do not retreat and they do not surrender, and their 9-to-5 is fighting the worst things you can possibly imagine over and over in a completely futile forever-war.

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[–] Wrufieotnak 73 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Remember: WAIT!

They cancelled the beta. So something was SO wrong with the game, that they didn't want the public to find out about.

I hope it will be a good game, because the first was fun to play, but we will find that out after it released.

[–] I_Clean_Here@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Multiplayer is mostly broken as of yet.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

Personally, I hope any issues are with multiplayer because I completely don't care about it. Single-player ftw!

[–] Modva@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Thanks for the heads up.

[–] astrsk@kbin.run 11 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Is this game accessible for someone who knows absolutely nothing about the series?

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There isn't much to know about the series other than the main guy got accused of heresy and has to work his way back up the chain. They'll probably explain that at the beginning of the game as a lore dump. As for Warhammer 40k - everything sucks, humanity was meant for great things but weren't prepared for what was out in the galaxy and beyond. A civil war happened, turned out that demons are real and they don't like the ruler of humanity that much (who basically rivals their power). Dude got stabbed, is now in a huge immovable wheelchair that supports his body, but still tries to save humanity.

That all happened 10k years ago and everything sucks even more. There is no technological improvement - tech is barely maintained by a bunch of ritualistic fanatics that don't know why it works or doesn't, they just burn a bunch of incense, pray to it a lot and press control alt delete because it's all part of the ritual. Humanity fights like 15 evil factions at all times, but humanity is evil too. Space marines would be great to fight the wars if there was enough of them for it - there is basically a couple thousand marines for millions of worlds.

[–] adam@doomscroll.n8e.dev 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

but humanity is evil too

Emphasis on this. We humans have become Xenophobic Christofascists* turned up to 11. All aliens are bad** and anything against established doctrine is heresy of the highest order. Human labour is essentially free vs the gross expense of materiel so the leadership will think nothing of having entire generations of a planet mine out some toxic substance that kills before you age much past the ability to outbreed it.

In short, anyone who claims humans are the good guys, is misguided at best.

*EmperorFascists as the ruler is the Immortal God Emperor.

** Officially, but there exists means and people who can deal a little more diplomatically than with a gun.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Then just throw in the good old human/elves/ork/bad human rhetoric and add space or dark to everything.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Gotta add that the orcs in 40k are mushrooms!

[–] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

Nah they're just a fun guy.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Yup, the rules are simple: you serve the empror by killing the alien, the mutant and the heretic.

All else is blasphemy.

[–] essell@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

First one totally was, I'd expect the same here

[–] USNWoodwork@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Was the first one any good? I've played a couple of 40k games that were meh. I like the lore, but the story and gameplay have to be up to par also.

[–] Blaiz0r@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah it's basically like Gears of War with more melee.

One of the best games after Dawn of War in the 40k franchise

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

So you see it all started with space frogs hundreds of millions of years ago...

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

I would recommend playing the first game (it's good, though it is showing some age). Apart from that: no, you don't really need to know the lore to follow along. And the comments in this thread have given more than enough background to follow it.

That being said, if you're interested in the lore I've been listening to a podcast called "Laying Down the Lore Warhammer 40k". I found it entertaining and informative

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

Most the games are fine to just pick up with no knowledge of Warhammer.

[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I still need the option to hide in a corner and heal.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

In the first one you heal by crushing opponents. They'll probably keep that system, since people liked it a lot.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

FTA:

As in the first game, executions are key. When an enemy is staggered, you can run up and trigger a canned death animation—usually tearing them apart with your bare hands, or impaling them on their own claw-limbs—in order to recover your armour bar to block incoming hits.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Hopefully it's a bit more polished since DOOM 2016 is an example of the system being used really well. I found the first game to be a bit clunky at times

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago

Heresy!

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

So like a normal manufacturing job nowadays