Mine is envy vs jealousy.
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Jealousy is just envious because it didn't make it into the Seven Deadly Sins.
Envy is the emotion behind coveting.
Covetousness is the primary motivation behind adultery.
The word theory has become (or at best is becoming) a clusterfuck of whatever, much like the word literally.
And we don't even have (normal/easy/exact) replacements for those words.
Those words were already the scientific terms for nerds. But normies normied them into normedom, literally theorised into a fuck.
(Also unfortunately Im a normie, but that doesn't mean I can't bitch about it)
I like the word "model", I think it's a better fit even. We're modeling reality. Some models turn out to be shit, while others are well tested giving confidence that they mimic reality well.
But isn't model used differently in different disciplines?
~~Some~~ Most models turn out to be shit
Ftfy
Every model is wrong. Some are useful.
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"But that's just a hypothesis...a GAME hypothesis."
...I'd sub to that channel
That entire universe of channels is more accurately described as "whatever" hypothesis.
I kinda wonder how they're doing with the new hosts. Not enough to check, but it's more than 0.
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Read the other day that there actually isn't any official distinction. It's just colloquially used that way in some scientific circles but definitely not all. Probably not by etymologists.
Normally, I'm all for language changing over time. If some word is used a certain way, so beit. But not here. Not in a case where people can end up saying dumb shit like "Evolution is just a theory." I will physically fight people on that, If need be.
Theory meaning "unproven assumption" is one of the definitions in Merriam-Webster so it is not a new definition.
You're just angry word means something you don't want it to mean. Just like the literally-figuratively crowd.
If you consider gross misuse (i.e. mixing up "theory" and "hypothesis") to be a valid form of etymology (e.g. making new words), I have a question to axe.
(I apologize to linguists' families who now have to clean up bodily fluids and/or arrange a funeral.)
The aks variant pronunciation of ask is fine. It is part of a dialect.
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To be perfectly fair, you can't "prove" or "disprove" a theory. You can only discover new evidence that supports the theory or another competing theory. Multiple competing theories can be equally accepted as correct.
The issue is people using exactly that definition to reject science. We also have a theory of gravity, but gravity itself is an observation. Evolution should be too, regardless of our theories about it.
Also, String Theory isn't doing anyone any favors.
I think anyone who uses the word "literally" to mean anything other than "in a literal sense" is a moron who never actually thinks about what the words coming out of their mouth mean, and I always will.
People who do not seem to understand that language is different than they wish it to be, are the actual morons. Not only morons, but pampas morons. Language is messy, imprecise, and always in flux. Language is a construct of the collective of its speakers, not you alone, nor anyone else. This is why we have specific lexicons for various industries, and academic fields. Even those are constantly being updated, and revised.
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I remember seeing somewhere that the "colloquial" usage is actually the original and that the scientific community is the one that changed it. I do agree that the evolution argument is stupid but it's hard to blame the non scientific populace for not knowing the distinction. The evolution denier just don't have a lot else to stand on.
Evolution is just a theory
And so is gravity, and the concept of colors.
Could you explain the difference to me? 🙏
In physics we call some results "laws" and some "theories." The difference has absolutely nothing to do with our certainty in the validity of the results.
Newton's Laws of motion are called that because they can be written as concise mathematical equations, and allof the content is there. Einstein's Theory of special relativity is just as valid, and even contains Newton's Laws as a special case, but the content of the theory can't be written in simple, concise equations. There are several equations included in special relativity, but they do not represent the entire content. For example, the most important statement of the theory cannot be written in equation form at all: "The measured speed of light in a vacuum will be the same for all observers in inertial reference frames, regardless of the relative speed of their reference frame."
Darwin's Theory of Evolution likewise cannot be written in concise statements (mathematical or otherwise), but our certainty in its validity is no less than in Newton's Laws.
Another important subtlety: I was careful to say that we are certain of the validity. People who don't know better are fond of saying that Newton's Laws are wrong. This is a fallacy. Scientific laws and theories can only be valid or not, they can never be true.
A law describes what happens, a theory explains why. The law of gravity says that if you drop an item, it will fall to the ground. The theory of relativity explains that the "fall" occurs due to the curvature of space time.
I was referring to the difference between a theory and a hypothesis.
Theorem would also be interesting to add to the mix.
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Descriptive linguists unite! Words evolve and that's okay. Really science should pivot away and start calling more proven theories a different word if they're upset about the confusion.
The etymology of the word theory comes from a word with a meaning closer to "to look at or speculate" so even in that sense science kind of hijacked a word that was further from the modern scientific understanding of the word "theory" and descriptively transformed it themselves for use in their community. And that's okay too.
I've ranted about this so much to people close to me. Scientific community just needs to adopt a new word like you say, theory is a lost battle
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I accept it in colloquial discourse. I'm not happy about it, and I will smartass at everyone who isn't asking, but I accept that I'm probably fighting a losing battle. But in science, it's absolutely non-negotiable for words to mean what they mean, and not their own opposite.
Tell that to conventional current vs electron flow. Science is ever updating with new information and the words we use to describe it will change over time as well, but I get what you mean. Prescriptive linguistics especially in formal settings like scientific writing is helpful for clear communication.
Various fields have to adapt their terms all the time. For example, "idiot", "moron", and "mental retardation" were all official medical terms. Then they got used as an insult by the population at large, and got so bad that the medical field had to abandon them.
Medical terms being used as an insult is a very specific (and problematic) case. And they also weren't turned into their own opposite. They were equalized with stupidity.
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While theory and hypothesis are not the same if you are talking about science, in general everyday use theory is used as a synonym.
In wiktionary: 5. A hypothesis or conjecture. [from 18th c.]
But I'm a wannabe scientist, don't come here with your colloquial language explanations
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When someone uses “hesitant”
When they mean “reluctant”
This is my biggest pet peeve and I will die on this hill.
Yes, I drive my family nuts.
Deez nuts?
Yes, they are the Deez family, and yes they have nuts. Enough doxing.
I suggest we use new words.
Hypothesis - the great pondering
Theory - mystical workings of the orb
Nobody in the history of humanity has been asked how pedantic they are.
How pedantic are you?
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Me when people treat theory as if its concrete fact that they themselves penned and proved.
And then say "it's just a theory" to completely dismiss something they don't like.
This is a personal attack.
Edit: who's downvoting jokes in this community? 😂
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