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Fediverse vs Disinformation

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Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.

Propaganda and disinformation are a big problem on the internet, and the Fediverse is no exception.

What's the difference between misinformation and disinformation? The inadvertent spread of false information is misinformation. Disinformation is the intentional spread of falsehoods.

By equipping yourself with knowledge of current disinformation campaigns by state actors, corporations and their cheerleaders, you will be better able to identify, report and (hopefully) remove content matching known disinformation campaigns.


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Same as instance rules, plus:

  1. No disinformation
  2. Posts must be relevant to the topic of astroturfing, propaganda and/or disinformation

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[–] Lukewarm_Tea@lemm.ee 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Also to be the vice president a person needs to meet the same citizenship requirements as president. Republicans would love to have a democratic vice president forced out of office for improper eligibility. The “dems want to replace Americans with immigrants” headlines would write themselves.

Waiting until now just slamming the racism button.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 25 points 3 months ago

Exactly. Last paragraph rom the article:

Former U.S. President Donald Trump has also long amplified such "birther" conspiracy theories against Obama and even against Harris when she ran for the vice presidential seat in 2020.

He already tried this racist bullshit with Kamala 4 years ago. She’s been vetted and verified.

Asked and answered Donald, you weird rapey racist fuck.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 37 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The number of people that don't know this is... Distressing.

This was literally middle-school shit for me.

If you were either born in the US--which (usually) makes you a citizen by birthright--or are born to parents that are citizens, you are almost always eligible. (There are some weird edge cases about citizenship, but they're extremely rare.)

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah it was to most people I think.

But since anti-intellectualism has gotten so popular, people have this idea that learning is stupid and makes you uncool. So they hate school and reject information.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

That has always been the case for stupid people, but the internet has spread the idea to average people now too.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

(Unless it's a middle-school level understanding of sex and gender.)

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

What I learned in school was natural born means born in the USA.

It wasn't until Cheney that I learned that it also meant parents of citizens or born on a US Base.

Just goes to show that school systems are janky when it comes to history.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't Mitt Romney born in Mexico? And nobody even cared when he was running.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago

Mitt Romney was born in the US, but his father was a Mexican citizen.

This HuffPost article is a wild ride

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

A US base is US territory. Same as an embassy or consulate. If you're born there, it's the same as being born in Kansas.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

I think that being born to US citizens, on or off a US base, is usually sufficient to be a US citizen, but it depends on residency. It gets a little tricky at the margins, and it's the sort of thing that you'd need to take up with the US State Dept.

I know that for people that have dual-citizen parents, but have never lived in the US, it can get challenging.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If Project 2025 had its way, she wouldn't have been a citizen even if she was born here from immigrant parents. Vote to keep the orange bastard out of the White House.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Trump already floated the idea of revoking birthright citizenship during his administration, even going so far as to suggest that we should remove people's citizenship retroactively.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

Funny thing is that for some of us, our family has been on US soil well before the US was a thing, let alone when trumps family got here.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Snopes is having to give people a 7th grade education now?

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

👩‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀

[–] venoft@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Queue the "where is her birth certificate?"

[–] Twinkletoes@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

Weren’t Drumpf’s parents immigrants?