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I'm asking because as a light-skinned male, I always use the standard Simpsons yellow. I don't really see other light-skinned people using an emoji that matches their skin tone, but often do see people of color use them. Maybe white people don't naturally realize a need to be explicit with emoji skin-tone or perhaps it's seen as implicitly identifying or requesting white privilege.

  • Is there a significance to using skin-tone emojis, and if so, what is it?

  • Assuming there might be a racial movement attached to the first question, how does my use of emojis, both Simpsons yellow and light-skin, interact with or contribute to that?

Note: I am an autistic white Latino-American cis-gendered man that aims to be socially just.

Autistic text stim: blekh ๐Ÿ˜ blekh ๐Ÿ˜ blekh ๐Ÿ˜ blekh ๐Ÿ˜ blekh ๐Ÿ˜ !!

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[โ€“] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Everyone simply saw the yellow ones as neutral toned. It's a nice contrasting color to show the emotion and they have always done a good job representing everyone while serving their goal: to convey emotion in text.

The push for representation in emoji's always struck me as weird since they already represented everyone. I rarely see people using them who aren't a bit too focused on skin color in their day-to-day life.

[โ€“] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

That, and I think they trace a direct lineage back to the original Harvey Ross Ball smiley face, which was also yellow.

Me, I don't particularly care about matching emoji skintones to myself. Rather, I'm much more annoyed that I can't tune the ๐Ÿ๏ธ emoji to match the color of my motorcycle. What a rip off.

[โ€“] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

...since they already represented everyone.

Did they really? Because if that were the case we wouldn't have different skin tones for emojis with people claiming they feel more represented by them or happy to use them because they have the same skin tone.

[โ€“] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Yes, they did. The Canadian flag represents all Canadians. The BC province flag may represent me more closely, but it doesn't stop the Canada flag from doing the same. While some people will be happy they can represent themselves more accurately to real life, it also makes for more exclusive use cases. I think there's an argument to be made for keeping things simple and broadly usable.

[โ€“] dhork@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Use what you want to. Let others use what they want to. Don't overthink it.

Some people are thrilled with the fact that they can make their little online avatar closer to their reality, others don't give a damn, because they don't want to define themselves by their virtual presence. At the end of the day, though, they're just pixels. What you say and how you treat people is much more important than whatever little +1 icon gets attached.

[โ€“] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago
[โ€“] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I can give you a real answer, because I asked my wife this exact question (she's black and uses the skin tone closest to hers, I'm white and also just use yellow ones). She said it's so rare to get to choose a digital representation that matches her skin tone that she just thinks it's fun to get to do it for once.

Does the skin tone modifier work on the peach emoji?

[โ€“] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago

There's no significance because they are just fucking emojis.

Simpsons yellow

:D

[โ€“] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The yellow should be the only one. I find it absolutely idiotic that they needed to include all different skin colors. I think that's similar to my native language (Finnish) not having gender specific pronouns (hรคn = he/she) and then someone wanting to come up with ones. That's "fixing" a problem that didn't even exist in the first place.

[โ€“] algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you'd feel differently if your country wasn't 90+% homogeneous with a light skin tone

[โ€“] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There are no yellow skinned people where I live

[โ€“] algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's still pretty light if we're considering the array of skin tones that are throughout humanity. If you weren't Finnish, but instead African or Indian or South American for example, maybe you wouldn't feel that yellow was representative of you and your people. Saying yellow is fine for everyone because you feel it's fine isn't taking into account the other billions of opinions in the world.

[โ€“] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

I quess we need a billion more variations of those emojis then. Lets keep paying more attention to the skin color of people. That seems like a great idea.

[โ€“] rockandsock@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Most white people expect peach color/white to be the universally accepted default and everyone should just not think about it because they themselves rarely have to think about representation.

White people in majority white countries rarely experience lack of representation so they don't think its a big deal.

If medium brown was the default lots of people would be losing their minds with rage and y'all know it.

[โ€“] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What white. Default is yellow.

[โ€“] rockandsock@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

White/peach is the universally accepted default for drawn or animated people in general, not emojis. Simpsons yellow is what they use for white people. It's still using white person color for the default.

[โ€“] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 0 points 4 months ago

And a dog is a wolf.

[โ€“] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Simpsons yellow. Not white?

[โ€“] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Who talks about fictive yellow people?

[โ€“] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People honestly assessing whether yellow is adjacent to whiteness.

Now please answer my question.

[โ€“] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Simpsons yellow, not white.

[โ€“] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

All of the white guests are also yellow. Still claiming they aren't supposed to be white?

[โ€“] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

What are you talking about? I don't know simpsons well. What white guests?

[โ€“] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They often have cameos on the show by famous people. The white people are always yellow. Yellow = white in the Simpsons, very clearly.

[โ€“] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ok, cool. But we talked about unicode smileys.

[โ€“] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Understood. And I'm pointing out an example that makes it obvious how yellow is clearly white adjacent.

[โ€“] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago

In a fictive show. Except if you're arguing that Simpsons is part of US culture. But Unicode is international.