the official word is that we can now sneer on our choice of an enshittified website with weird vibes or a federated nuthouse running on broken software nobody likes. enjoy!
this post was submitted on 04 Aug 2024
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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.
AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.
[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]
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It seems like many still-active redditors have consulted Ass, My, et al (2024) to conclude any alternative to reddit were abject failures and not worth investigating
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the official word on our end is: no idea! we’re monitoring @mawhrin@awful.systems’s post over there with interest.
in a typical reddit fashion the post is getting downvotes despite just asking the obvious question.
I'm a bit weirded out that new posts on a year dead subreddit suddenly get ~50-100 upvotes
to be honest, I’m getting a weird vibe off the resurrected /r/SneerClub in general. that might just be me though
Scabs the lot of them!
snabs?
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People are still subscribed to the subreddit. When a post gets made, it goes on their reddit feed. Lots of mobile users in particular will just have seen it pop up while doomscrolling.
They had a lot of subscribers.
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Twice the sneer, double the… club?
so the official reply is that mod got bored, and also was asked to re-open. which is, of course, fine.
and to be clear
- i didn't think there is any conspiracy, that would be ridiculous,
- if we subscribe to the idea that a community is owned, not stewarded, by mods, it's perfectly fine to do with the community whatever the mods want, without the need of them being accountable to anyone else,
- i do think that reopening the sub after closing it in protest is mostly sad,
- and a very small and rather insignificant footnote to a more general discussion on (f)utility of using master's tools to bring down the master's house.
i have a reading account for when i need to read reddit via logged-in account, so i went and asked.
ETA-1: and got banned for asking.
ETA-2: the subreddit's description still has “sub moved to https://awful.systems” in the old view.
thread closed by some guy called "giziti"?
Looks like he was a mod as recently as a year ago, but doesn't know what's up either. Seems weirdly hostile to us, though.
not only the thread is closed, i was banned for asking that question:
transcript follows
Hello, You have been permanently banned from participating in r/SneerClub because you broke this community's rules. You won't be able to post or comment, but you can still view and subscribe to it.
Note from the moderators:
There, the sub is dead again (for you).
If you have a question regarding your ban, you can contact the moderator team by replying to this message.
Very glad to see the sub being run exactly as it was always supposed to be.
Hail Mod!
I know this isn't what you meant but I've long been fascinated (and slowly ramping up my clue in relevant areas) of using natural phenomena as synth/sound inputs. which is why I misread this at first
Sometimes I wonder what it was like to exist in a time when there were sentient beings capable of hearing natural phenomena. Now they are only heard as synth/sound inputs...
haha :)
nah, you misunderstand me (although that's on me for not explaining in any depth whatsoever)
I'm extremely in the every-sound-is-valid camp. as in, I don't (for example) have an "intake" filter/process/whatever that makes hardspace things be perceived as dubstep, or any such flavour shit. but (for me at least) it is the exploration of sound itself that is fun - the composition, the production, the perception. the way it interplays with perception. all of it!
as to the specific thing I mentioned in previous comment, the flavour I want to chase for the thing I want to make is literally using hail (possibly through modelling? not sure) as a driving input (same as people have used motion, light, and space as methods in creation)
I'm not misunderstanding, I'm going on a nostalgic acausal tangent from the future. Which, incidentally, is the title of my next album.
brb stealing album title
this is way the acausal robot god nudges from the future
(idly, as little as I tend to make public, you can in fact see some of this in antecedent thinking on my reddit, where I asked about the state of clue of how physical different-medium materials interact to create some sound (on which I never got an answer, but I didn't have high expectations))
:/
it was always a risk; questioning someone's integrity, be it directly or indirectly, is rarely welcomed.
needless to say, i'm even less inclined to resume any activity on reddit.
bonus: some *chan-pilled gobshite thinks this branch is not cool enough (cw: ableism)
It has no reach. Sorry. I myself go there every few weeks to check last threads, but becoming insular autistic circlejrk circlejerking over other autist made it intellectualy impotent, sorry.
Yeah bad vibes on the undead sub. Amazed by the person goign 'it can be hard to reach new people on the fediverse' when there have been a lot more randos who don't know what this place is here, and some threads went the lemmiverse equiv of viral.
Lol at them thinking sneerclub was a great intellectually potent place vs a place to say 'look at this extremely offended dork' a lot.
Smart, funny people create good times
Good times attract unfunny morons
Unfunny morons create bad times
Bad times attract smart, funny people
Feel free to smash the "report" button as it is definitely not working ceaselessly to bring me into existence.
nah, i'm not going back where i'm clearly not wanted; the mods can take care of this themselves.
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Answer on a postcard
I have often thought about just nuking most of my reddit posts and have not done so because I'm easily distracted. So I also feel like the latter.
Instead of nuking it, it would be better for the fediverse if you backlinked your favorite fediverse instance in all of your comments. It's your content, you wrote it, you own the license to it. It would seem absurd if YouTube made a rule that stated video creators couldn't talk about the merch they sell or their company association. Though, some subreddits might make the decision to censor some of your comments.
This tool is easy to use to edit all comments. It doesn't provide the ability to add a signature to all comments though, and only allows you to fully edit a comment.
That is not something I would prob do, as I think that is a little bit annoying and spammy. (and I don't like to do things I don't like myself while leaning on 'technically there is no rule against it'. It would also be annoying in a few old subreddits which I used to post in which have nothing to do with all of this (and I don't want to annoy them), so I would to have put more work into whitelisting/blacklisting the various subs. But still thanks, somebody else might want to use it.
So far I have mostly resorted to manually deleting a few posts every now and then so far. (And the few times I still use it nowadays, a few posts per month, I tend to delete the posts eventually already).
I'm also not sure im interesting enough as a poster for people to actually follow me, or that people actually care that much. Tried before the restart to every now and then point towards this instance and I found that process annoying. (So this also means a large percentage of the people now left in sneerclub will be the worst, so it might finally morph into the boogyman the Rationalists always made it out to be).
I just hate reddit.
I think it's just a combination of seeming genuine and not appearing to sell something. Like if you had a conversation with someone on reddit, and they were looking at their past comments with you, and then saw that you had modified them to include "If you found my content useful, I've left reddit because I don't agree with reddit's decisions. I'm now located in the fediverse. I've left this content available, but I don't plan on using reddit."
Though, I do think something appearing as spam is bad and can be counterproductive, so maybe I need to think about it more.
(So this also means a large percentage of the people now left in sneerclub will be the worst, so it might finally morph into the boogyman the Rationalists always made it out to be).
Some people seem to be genuinely happy it's back, but that could just be the honeymoon phase, so let's see. I might even post there now and then since I still use my Reddit account because I stuck around thanks to discoverability in the Fediverse being just awful which means I haven't found a good replacement for a bunch of communities I like.
I am not much of a Reddit muckraker. I checked out the posts from the mods I didn't recognise. The longtime mod Son_of_Sophroniscus appears to now be alt-right? Other than that, I still can't make heads or tails of any of it.
I would have thought anyone who regularly posted on the sub in the last 7 years or so would be well aware that there were effectively two active moderators, only one of whom - the founder and head mod /u/completely-ineffable - is still on reddit, and who made the first new post (being “The EA Case for Trump”)
Two further moderators were added shortly before the AI reddit fuckaround which spawned this place, with one of them being David Gerard (who formally spawned this place)
A conclusion I am genuinely surprised to see nobody drawing is obvious: a mod just decided to post something, and turned on comments on for the sake of comments. What’s the deal with trying to figure that out as if it’s some kind of high level management decision?
Yo dawg, slow your roll. Yes, that is the easy explanation. I just wanted more information before jumping to any conclusions. Not all of us (read: I) were deeply familiar with the moderator dynamics nor had a reason to be.
Again either way I’ve made my choice to be here, so to me, it doesn’t really matter what’s going on beyond my own curiosity.
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