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repeated media reports of Google’s disregard for the privacy of the general public led to a push for open source, community driven alternatives to Google Maps. The biggest contender, now used by Google’s direct competitors and open source projects alike is OpenStreetMap.

  1. OsmAnd

OsmAnd is a fantastic choice when searching for an alternative to Google Maps. It is available on both Android and iOS devices with both free and paid subscription options. Free accounts have full access to maps and navigation features, but choosing a paid subscription will allow you unlimited map downloads and increases the frequency of updates.

All subscriptions can take advantage of turn-by-turn navigation, route planning, map markers, and all the favorite features you expect from a map and navigation app in 2024. By making the jump to a paid subscription you get some extra features like topo maps, nautical depths, and even point-of-interest data imported from Wikipedia.

  1. Organic Maps

Organic Maps is a great choice primarily because they offer support for all features of their iOS and Android apps completely offline. This means if you have an old phone laying around, you can install the app, download the maps you need and presto! You now have an indepth digital map in the palm of your hand without needing to worry about losing or damaging your primary mobile device when exploring the outdoors.

Organic Maps tugs our heartstrings by their commitment to privacy. The app can run entirely without a network connection and comes with no ads, tracking, data collection, and best of all no registration.

  1. Locus Maps

Our third, and last recommendation today is Locus Maps. Locus Maps is built by outdoor enthusiasts for the same community. Hiking, biking, and geocaching are all mainstays of the Locus App, alongside standard street map navigation as well.

Locus is available in its complete version for Android, and an early version is available for iOS which is continuing to be worked on. Locus Maps offers navigation, tracking and routes, and also information on points-of-interest you might visit or stumble upon during your adventures.

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[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 72 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Without active traffic data, none of these is an adequate substitute for Google Maps navigation.

[–] UNY0N@lemmy.world 55 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's the price of privacy. Google has that traffic data because there are so many drivers with thier app installed. If you are OK with a giant corporation monitoring your every move, then of course that convenience is a good reason to use thier services.

Data is the new oil.

[–] HamsterRage@lemmy.ca 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if traffic is "convenience" at this point. At least where I live, it's a nearly essential piece of functionality.

In fact, for local driving it's often the only reason to use a map app. I already know how to get to most of the places I want to go, I just need to know the best route to avoid traffic now.

[–] UNY0N@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

For me it is, apparently for you it is not. We have different use cases. That's cool.

Just to be clear, I'm not here to judge. Everyone has thier own life with it's multitude of little and big decisions. It would be presumptuous and ignorant of me to assume what applies to me also applies to you.

The focus should be on helping each other to make informed decisions.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It has traffic so it must have infrastructure to maintain, yet it also claims to be completely free.

How does this project make money?

[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Best info i could get is that they do a lot of bussiness to bussiness data stuff, and this nav app is like a showcase. That doesn't feel great for long term, but you could use it as a secondary app?

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That doesn't sound too bad in the near term.

To be fair I feel like my lazy ass should've read their website further to get the same info, but then again, this exchange might save someone else a minute of scrolling the FAQ.

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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Why is Magic Earth free? What is the business model?

Magic Earth is free for all our end-users but we also have a paid Magic Earth SDK for business partners. For instance Selectric.de (a supplier for navigation solutions for ambulances and fire trucks), Smarter AI (developing ADAS systems) or Absolute Cycling (using the platform on bicycles). For more info on the SDK, you can check magiclane.com.

Do you share data with third parties?

We send position data to our traffic provider to generate real-time traffic information. The data is anonymized on the phone, using a changing key (so it's not linked to you), and it is deleted after 5 minutes.

Will Magic Earth be Open Source?

No; since it is also used commercially (we have a paid Magic Earth SDK for business partners), we cannot make the code public.

https://www.magicearth.com/faq-en/

[–] 5redie8@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago

Magic Earth kicks serious ass, it's legitimately performed better than both Google and Apple maps in my area. Searching for businesses is still a little janky, but if you're patient enough to just use Google maps to find a place and then copy the address it's exquisite, seriously.

[–] eodur@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

I've been using Magic Earth for a while and it is quite good. Better interface than OsmAnd and Organic, but I keep all three installed.

[–] lemmydripzdotz456@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (4 children)

If your primary goal is finding out how to get from A to B and not caring about the very fastest way to get from A to B right now, then you don't need traffic data.

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[–] calabast@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Maybe for you, but there are use cases where traffic data isn't vital, like driving in small or medium sized towns where traffic doesn't ever get too bad. Or road trips where there is only one feasible route, and any other way would take hours longer.

But yeah, traffic data IS awesome, I'm not arguing with that 😄

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[–] ian@feddit.uk 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

For using osm as a map, it's great and very detailed. For cycling navigation it's ideal. And beats Google maps that fails to find a route without a data connection. Like when roaming. And in many poorer countries, where humanitarian agencies desperately need maps, Google doesn't bother to map any details, because there is no money in it for them. Fail again.

And, as with railways, companies love to build new, as you get a monopoly. But maintenance? No financial benefit to doing that.

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[–] eodur@lemmy.world 41 points 3 months ago (5 children)

If you appreciate OpenStreetMaps then check out StreetComplete. Its "like" Pokemon Go but for improving maps.

[–] myfavouritename@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm honestly having so much fun getting out in my neighborhood and completing quests

[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago
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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

this is great but i'd also recommend contributing and editing your local area in openstreetmap.org too.

[–] dormedas@lemmy.dormedas.com 17 points 3 months ago

In trying to find privacy-oriented map software, I found OsmAnd as well as OrganicMaps and shortly thereafter began contributing to openstreetmap. It’s actually quite easy and IMO fun to find discrepancies and use your knowledge to help an open data set.

Not only have I seen my edits show up in proprietary softwares, but the area around me is more accurate, to the point where recent construction to the road network was updated on OSM and Apple Maps, but not Google maps.

I just checked and Google maps is still out of date.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

I've been very satisfied by OSM map apps (mostly use Organic Maps) but my main issue is the lack of places and that's why I use Google Maps mostly.

Edit: actually found https://mapcomplete.org/ which aims to kinda do that? Still exploring but seems really cool so far.

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago

StreetComplete is another good app for adding details to the map, and it lets you select the type of things you want to add 👍

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

What is really frustrating to me is that my county actually has almost all of the data (including outlines and address numbers) publicly available and downloadable. There is a Wikipage on Open Street Maps written in 2020 talking about how that data has been downloaded and prepped and that it will be imported in 2021, but it never was. The wiki page was last updated 3 years ago.

I'm technologically competent enough to add things individually on OSM or StreetComplete, but that import is way above my technical understanding. I would love to donate or maybe even pay someone to finish what was apparently started, but I don't even know who to contact about it.

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Get OSMand~ from fdroid so you don't have to pay for the fully featured version on Google Play

[–] 5redie8@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fdroid reports some seriously sus anti features, although I know it can be over dramatic. Anything to be worried about?

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's the same app as what's on the Play Store and if you're worried there's always...

https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand

Tada!

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

OsmAnd has the full app on F-Droid.

Locus Map is not FOSS, and OsmAnd works great for hiking, biking, etc, soooo....

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Been using osmand unfortunatly it doesnt have numbers on streets and can't plan public transport.

[–] blackfire@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The house numbers is due to map data being incomplete. You can help with that by adding data with an app called street complete its free and on playstore. We need more people adding data to osm or it will never get better

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Ive been adding with some app i found on fdroid but i feel my efforts are just a very tiny drop in a very very large bucket.

[–] Undearius@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago

Everything that exists in OpenStreetMap is from tiny drops

[–] blackfire@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

If you add your area like I added mine then its definitely helping

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Alternatives to Google Maps aren’t great. The only place where I find Organic Maps better is China, since the authorities have stunted GM there.

For driving in Europe I find TomTom better (whereas both Apple Maps and Google Maps are better in the US), but in terms of POI Google reigns supreme.

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[–] fraksken@infosec.pub 9 points 3 months ago

Locus maps seemed interesting to me. I was surprised it was not available on F-droid. I found it on the Aurora store though. Contains ads and 4 trackers (google and facebook). Google play services is a dependency.

I'll stick with osmand.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

For the cyclists here I just want to mention cycle.travel, which is hands down the best route planner I've ever used for nice bike rides which are direct but avoid nasty roads. It doesn't have an app (that I'm aware of) but you can use the website to generate a gpx track which you can import into OsmAnd and use to navigate offline.

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[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do any of them have public transport directions?

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[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

Organic Maps tugs our heartstrings by their commitment to privacy. The app can run entirely without a network connection and comes with no ads, tracking, data collection, and best of all no registration.

In my experience this applies to OsmAnd too. Please correct me if I'm mistaken though.

[–] cloudless@lemmy.cafe 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Quality is more important than features.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

They’re often the same thing in a map software.

[–] superkret 3 points 3 months ago

Recommendation for German-speakers who want the best bicycle routing available:
bikerouter.de

It comes with lots and lots of routing profiles.
My favorite for getting somewhere quickly and safely is "Trekking-Tertiaries", which ignores the horrible German bike-paths and leads you over quiet back streets that aren't thoroughfares for car traffic.
You can also customize the routing to your heart's content if you're into scripting.
The routes can be exported as GPX tracks to use them anywhere you like.

[–] fury@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I'm looking for one that works well on Android Automotive. So far I couldn't get OsmAnd to show the Android Auto UI on the full OS, or integrate with the home page (split screen music / maps), and none of the others I tried in F-droid worked at all. I need something because I'm tired of using my phone, and I don't have Google services on my tablet (flashed with a custom build of Lineage / Android Automotive OS).

It would be nice to have an open source version of the big screen systems they're putting in the newest cars...

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