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In addition to Vance's connections, the many of the authors who were appointed to government positions during the first Trump term mean that Project 2025 basically lays out Republican policy aspirations.

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[–] jmsy@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Pete Buttigieg explained that Vance has no positions or principles. He's a power hunting glory seeker. He thought Project2025 would be a path to that power and glory. It's quite possible he doesn't give a shit about P25, but now he's tied to it.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago

He doesn't even have a stable name; so far as I can tell.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Interviews I've seen of people that knew/know him say he used to be reasonable but went off the deep end.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 month ago

He started taking money from Thiel.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

He's always been an awful corporate ghoul. He just pandered to a different set of elites.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

By my estimation, logically Vance should be replaced. But he was put in because he'd do what Pence wouldn't. But Vance just might lose Trump the election. I really wonder if Trump will replace him.

Ohio needs the ballot names by Aug 7, that's the cutoff.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

But Vance just might lose Trump the election.

Vance is a toady who will do whatever Trump wants him to do. That is perhaps the most important thing to Trump, loyalty. As for the election, evidence suggests that Trump isn't worried about losing votes or even losing the election. He keeps saying, "We don't need the votes." Why on Earth would a candidate repeatedly tell his supporters that he doesn't need their vote unless he thinks he's already got the election sewn up?

My fear is that he thinks he does. Rolling Stone recently reported that they have identified at least 70 pro-Trump election deniers who hold positions as election officials in battleground states.

Certification of election results is what legal experts consider a “ministerial task,” and one required by state and local law. But as Trump’s lies about the 2020 election have taken hold, Republicans nationwide have decided that certification provides them an opportunity to hear fraud allegations — and refuse to officially count their local votes. Republicans have refused to certify election results at least 25 times since Trump lost the 2020 election to President Joe Biden.

It seems clear that they have been practicing and working out the kinks so that this election they will be able to tie things up long enough for the Trump aligned SCOTUS to step in and hand the election to Trump.

It has also been reported that three of the five members of the Georgia State Election Board are election deniers that are actively trying to give the state's votes to Trump.

Earlier this month, the new three-member majority tried to call the election board into “emergency” session to cram through changes in state election regulations, at a time when they knew that the other two board members, including its chairman, were unable to attend. Those three board members were warned by the state attorney general’s office that no such emergency seemed to exist, and that the sudden meeting violated the state Open Meetings Act. They were told that any action they took would not be considered legitimate.

They met, and took action, anyway.

When Trump says he doesn't need votes, he's saying the quiet part out loud. He thinks he has the fix in and really doesn't need votes to win.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm worried about that. But it's easier to steal/dispute/say there are issues/discrepancies when the vote is closer.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

You're not wrong about that, but I think the plan is to tie things up at the county level. Get a couple counties in swing states to refuse to certify, and where does that leave the state when the deadline for certification of the state's electoral votes comes up? I just don't know. It's all going to be thrown to the courts and we all know what the courts will do with it.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why on Earth would a candidate repeatedly tell his supporters that he doesn’t need their vote unless he thinks he’s already got the election sewn up?

you're leaving out that he doesn't need votes because he's planning to cheat and/or overturn the results. why would you need vote if you're just going to steal the election, declare yourself the winner, and accuse the other side of stealing the election. and don't forget: GOP owns the SCOTUS

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Did you stop reading after the first paragraph? That's exactly what the comment was about.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Would you mind if I make your post into a meme to share? Or would you like to? Wow, I didn’t even know this

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Please, be my guest.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago

I don't think there's an easy path to replacing him after the nominating convention. Vance could drop out, and Trump run alone, with any VP then subject to Senate approval.

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago

Oh, couch fucker has ties to this project 25? Shocking. Fucking weirdo.

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