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“I don't care how, but you have to get out and vote,” Trump told the crowd at Turning Point Action’s Believer’s Summit. “Christians get out and vote. Just this time. You won't have to do it anymore.”

“In four more years, you know what? It’ll be fixed. It’ll be fine. You won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians,” Trump added during his 70-minute long speech. “We'll have it fixed so good. You're not going to have to vote.”

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[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 147 points 1 month ago (3 children)

When people tell you who they are, believe it. Trump is going all in on christofascist authoritarianism. There will be no American democracy if he wins. People really need to set aside minor differences, participate in volunteering for Democrat campaigns, and vote blue. This needs to be spread wide and far via social networks, and any attempts to minimize it should be met with forceful condemnation.

[–] XOXOX@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump doesn't care about Christians or Republicans. The deal is, he gets to be the center of attention and above the law. In exchange, he does whatever the Republicans want. He's too shallow, entitled and stupid to be passionate about anything except his image.

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

The only reason he is running is to stay out of jail. He doesn't actually want to do any work.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I'm like 80% sure Trump doesn't want to end democracy. He just wants more attention, power, and to protect himself when he goes out after 4 years. He said what he said here not because democracy will be over, but because he can't serve another term as president anymore, and he literally doesn't care what happens after as long as he's setup well, so "christians don't have to vote anymore", since he'll not be involved anymore.

That said, the people he does favors for or listens to want to end it as much as possible.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No offense, but if you believe that, then your head is planted firmly in your butt.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think you attribute more intelligence/planning behavior to Trump than he actually possesses. He's an individual solely driven by his personal gain, and there's not a lot to be gained for him by ending (the limited) democracy of the US, it's too hard and dangerous. He might give some favors to people that actually have this plan (as I already said), thus essentially "wanting" to end democracy because he gives people that want to end democracy favors so he gets what he wants, but I don't think that he actually cares about this goal at all.

I think you attribute more intelligence/planning behavior to Trump than he actually possesses.

Stop right there. I attribute NO intelligence or planning behavior to trump. I now no longer harbor any doubts about the placement of your cranium in relation to your sphincter.

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

If he stopped talking after the first paragraph then there is room for interpretation. The second paragraph about having this things "fixed" makes it pretty clear what he means.

I’m like 80% sure Trump doesn’t want to end democracy.

Hmm. Interesting idea. I'm sure the next sentence won't be completely consistent with Trump wanting to end democracy.

He just wants more attention, power, and to protect himself when he goes out after 4 years.

Oh.

[–] DevCat@lemmy.world 61 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Saying the quiet part out loud again.

[–] kittehx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 51 points 1 month ago

there really just isn't a quiet part anymore

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They know their base is too dumb to be bothered by it.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago

Bothered? Their base wants it.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I want someone to ask him point blank what he means by that. I'm sure he'll spin some lie, but I'm curious what he'd come up with.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

If he'd be smart, he'd say "we'll have done such a good job governing that almost everyone will be convinced and vote republican anyway, so Christians don't need to go out anymore"

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Too coherent

And then he gives everyone free ponies that fart rainbows.

[–] Beryl@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This dumbass has made enough career ending faux-pas and declarations as to disgrace a dozen or so Congresses worth of politicians, and yet here we are. The desensitization is complete, he can just flatly announce his intention of ending democracy in the middle of an incoherent tirade, and people will cheer.

It really helps understanding how past autocrats got into power.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

We humans are dumb, especially angry humans.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hope for the best but prepare for the worst. There’s a chance Trump just wants to be president and once he’s term limited he doesn’t care anymore….

But the cynic in me says he wants to be a dictator

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He's outright saying he's going to "fix" them "needing" to vote. One way or another, he definitely wants to not let someone take office after him.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Look, some part of me is still hoping Trump has a real “come to god” moment in which he realizes that he really needs to take responsibility for what he’s done. I’ve never hoped that Trump had a disastrous presidency, but I was always prepared for it.

And quite honestly, I’m not sure Trump /wants/ to be president so much as he does wants “immunity” for his crimes and he realizes he can become filthy rich abusing his power. I don’t think he wants any of the real responsibility

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

If Trump ever has "come to God" moment, it will be to try and fire Him for getting the attention Trump feels he deserves.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Could the cynic in you be simply remembering the time he said he’d be a dictator for ‘only the first day’ or something to that effect?

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He said "on day one". That doesn't mean ONLY one day, that means it will start immediately.

It means that day one he's a dictator. Day two, project 2025 is enacted, and he's not a dictator anymore, he's an emperor.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Honestly, I can’t remember if he said that. He’s done and said so many terrible things that it all melds together for me.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

The way I see it, they think Trump "won" in 2020 so they don't even have to vote right now. Your work here is done, Christians, take a nice vacation on election day.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

People on the left, please get a rifle, and learn how to use it…

Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. We’ve got political violence on the horizon regardless of the outcome of the election.

[–] PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago
[–] riskable@programming.dev 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

People are taking this as an authoritarianism warning sign--that he'll end democracy--but that's the baby version of events. How do we know he doesn't plan to just end the world by starting WW3? Or by executing everyone he doesn't like (e.g. evangelical Christians who he has said in private to many people that he can't stand them)?

He says he only needs to be a dictator for one day. There's only so much you can do in one day. Starting WW3 by sending out the nukes is one of those things.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

Big gov will choose for them after that.