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[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Honest question from someone who wants to see Ukraine not be overrun by orcs: Why is the US always the one who has to fund wars? There are some countries in the EU that have given a bit of suport, but the guys who are across the ocean seem to be the ones everyone looks to for money. Aren't you clever enlightened boys and girls from the European Union able to take care of this?

Every single time there is some conflict the idiots in charge here have to get big hard-ons and start getting involved. And we are told to stay out of it. But now Ukraine needs money and for some reason everyone focuses on the US providing it. Same with Israel, why are we the ones who have to prop them up?

I'd really like to know. Everyone hates the US until they want money or weapons. We aren't the ones next door to russia, the EU is. And we aren't anywhere near the middle east, so why are we wasting so much money on israel?

[–] sirjash@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

But it isn't? Many countries are supporting Ukraine, and there are more ways than shipping weapons there to do it.

Check out https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/

The thing is, the US is just so fucking big and it also has the biggest military industrial complex by far, so who else should do it? Proportional to GDP, it's not that much.

Also, in the past, other nations have contributed to America's wars. Japan paid something like 10 billion USD to the US for the Gulf War in 1991, which I think was around 20% of the total cost.

[–] Rainman@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

Regardless of the EU support not being what it should be, it is in the best interest of the USA to support Ukraine. Russia is a systemic rival and will not stop its aggressive expansion into other countries if they are not stopped in Ukraine. Slightly cynical, but even if Russia wins in the end, dragging this war out by supplying Ukraine also weakens Russia more than the current support weakens the USA.

[–] Gordito@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

USA has to respect the nuclear arms treaty... Ukraine was promised protection in return for giving up nuclear weapons.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is the EU bound by any such treaty?

Treaties aside, my issue is that it's always the US that everyone begs money from in these situations. We get shit on constantly for a bunch of reasons, some valid, but when someone comes along and starts making threats the question is always "What will the US do about this?"

[–] Gordito@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

Have you checked how many military bases the USA has in other countries? The USA doesn't give money for nothing. They have military presence in every timezone/hemisphere.