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Confronting neo-Nazi hate: 'When I look at you guys, I do not think master race' (www.scrippsnews.com)
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Article details how reporter -- pre-armed with relevant facts and cameras -- confronts neoNazis in Tennessee. | Excerpts:

Members of the Goyim Defense League harassed people in the heart of Nashville's entertainment district, berating a lesbian mom who had just left a restaurant.

Later, the neo-Nazis assaulted a bartender who had confronted the group.

"I'm curious: Why Nashville? Why did you guys choose Nashville?" I asked Minadeo.

A fellow GDL member, Nicholas Bysheim, quickly answered.

"It's the only place that respects freedom of speech," Bysheim said.

Minadeo added, "Yeah, this city respects freedom of speech, but communist Jews like yourself don't."

A Californian who moved to Florida, Minadeo leads the hate group as it goes around the country trying to create scenes that they hope will bring them attention and followers.

One of their favorite tropes: Falsely accusing Jews of being pedophiles.

Over and over, it became clear that these are people who are blind to any facts that don't support their hate.

These are really pathetic human beings.

They are the only ones who seem not to know it.

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[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 105 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This journalist just gave us a masterclass in everything you shouldn't do when interacting with nazis: appeals to logic, appeals to emotion, bringing up facts and logic, and ultimately platforming them. This is the kind of liberalism that promotes fascism. There is no excuse to give fascists time on TV and to platform them. There is no "debating" fascists. There is only violence.

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Please, this is the most important comment here. There is nothing to be gained from communicating with a Nazi. Even when they're playing nice

Zero tolerance, nazi punks fuck off

[–] redisdead@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Make Punching Nazis Legal Again

[–] ampersandcastles@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

Punching seems too nice when blades exist.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Mapunla!

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 37 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Imagine being so wrapped up in your hateful bullshit that you are terrifying young children on the street and you still think you are the good guy.

[–] memfree@lemmy.ml 25 points 4 months ago

I feel sorry for the kid. This sort of crap makes me angry.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 months ago

No, no, grown men making little girls cry is just normal and an essential part of free speech.

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 28 points 4 months ago

The GDL’s founder — a failed rapper and actor named Jon Minadeo who recently moved to Florida after he was fired from a catering business in California owned by his parents — was himself arrested in Palm Beach in February for littering offenses involving the fliers

From another article, lo fuckingl the dudes parents fired him!

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 24 points 4 months ago

Goyim Defense League

That would be funny if they were 16 and not fully grown men.

[–] broton33@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Damn, it takes guts and patience to confront and be honest with nazis.

[–] memfree@lemmy.ml 24 points 4 months ago

And cameras. Don't forget to record what they are doing. I feel like this sort of interaction could go really wrong if there isn't a video record.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"When I hear 'culture,' I reach for my gun" is a favorite quote of Nazis.

Their take is always whoever shoots first wins.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

You see how ignorant they are.

Whoever shoots last wins.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

The Nazies sure stopped trying to have a conversation when the reporter asked if the known pedophile in their group wasn't hiding behind one of the hoods/masks.

[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

Fantastic article. Gets right to the heart of the problem. Angry people disappointed with how their lives turned out feel like they have to cling to something. Something that gives them the value that they don’t see in themselves as individuals.

Race is an easy crutch. There are centuries of bullshit pseudoscience about skull shapes and whatnot for them to discover. And most of all, it gives them enemies. They can take all that hate and frustration they feel in their own lives and direct it outwardly.

It’s ultimately sad and pathetic. Maybe if people like this had economic opportunities, better education, etc. they wouldn’t have the underlying self-loathing that leads them down this path.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The fuck is wrong with these freaks?

[–] HoustonHenry@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago

People stopped punching nazis in the nose, it used to be a fun pastime

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Insulting to small-chinned comrades. Just because they're nazis doesn't mean body shaming is okay.

[–] Enkrod 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I agree, the subtext of this comic could be read as if it was okay if they were all blond, blue eyed chads.

If the "masterrace" people were all ultra good looking, highly educated supermodels, they'd still be wrong, evil and ugly on the inside.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.ml -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just because they're Nazi's means almost anything is okay. Body shame them away. They're not going to give you or me the basics of human respect so why should I? Almost every Nazi I've met is a fat, ugly, neck beard who would rather force everyone to change around them than to change themselves. See how easy that was?

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You can body shame fascists until the cows come home. Still won't do jack shit. The only winning strategy is violence.

Would you call a fascist the R word? How about the N word? If you found a fascist in a wheelchair, would you start talking up low blows? Leftist ought to see no utility in body shaming, we are above that. It doesn't work anyway.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago

If they're a fascist and what I'm saying is getting under their skin, yeah I'll call them all that. With apologies to the groups that I disparage.

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What comic is this?

[–] seaweedsheep@literature.cafe 2 points 4 months ago

Preacher by Garth Ennis, who also wrote The Boys.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Preacher by Garth Ennis and Steve Dillon. Specifically #46, reprinted in the collection "Preacher: Salvation".

Really, all of Preacher though is just solid gold. Shame the TV show didn't do it justice.

[–] RubyRhod@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm new to lemmy. Am I allowed to suggest killing all of these doods? If not, can I at least put castration on the table?