Mao and his CCP thugs murdered over 70 million who disagreed with them and it continues to this very day. Fuck the fascists and communists.
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Your entire comment history reads like a typical BlueMAGA shitlib, you are an enabler of fascism
My mom was just telling me a while ago about how one of her uncles was tortured by the communists after they came to power. Small note: he was a member of the legionnaires, so I can relate to this meme.
First they came for the grandfathers and I did not speak out, for my grandfather was a Nazi.
Did Trotsky have grandchildren? Or did the Communists exterminate his entire family line?
Yes, plenty. of his great granddaughters is an official at the NIH https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nora_Volkow
Oh cool, I'm going to listen to her thing with The Moth later, thank you!
Didn't know the Cambodians, Polish, Kalmyks, Kazakhs, Tatars, Ukrainians, Anarchists, Left SRs, Trotskyists and Peasants were all Nazis. Must be fun to live in that world.
The Finns who died defending their homeland from naked, opportunistic Soviet imperialism also wish to say hi.
Two things are true at once:
- They did crimes
- They fought even bigger criminals
And two things are true at once:
- Descendants of their innocent victims consider them monsters, and they are correct and valid.
- Descendants of the even bigger criminals that got "neutralized" hide among the other category, and they are dishonest.
I mean you can say that. At the same time I grew up in a communist country where your neighbours were disappeared for whatever reason that authorities saw fit. I saw the oligarchs keep their power under a different name and regular folk stay poor, and get even poorer than before. You American kids love the idea of communism but it don’t work in practice, it requires humans to be selfless, it requires leaders who will reach the top and give up power and money, and spread it to the people below. I don’t think that’s possible with humans, too selfish. Socialism under direct rules and regulations, great. But strong man communism isn’t different than fascism or capitalism to the people at the bottom
I can’t believe you called me American.
Such a profoundly dense thing to post, it could have only been made up by an American. How can anyone have such compartmentilized view of history is truly beyond me, unless of course they are incredibly ignorant or some kind of Putin's lapdog, like Medvyedev, actively engaged in the denial of atrocites.
The grandfather:
Georgi Markov, Bulgarian screenwriter, poisoned by the secret police.
Jan Zahradníček, Czech poet and writer bound to a wheelchair. Absolutely of no threat to the regime. Tortured and killed.
The 22 000 Polish grandfathers and potentional grandfathers killed simply for the crime of not being born Russian:
Fuck fascists, fucking kill them. That includes the officials of whatever totalitarian communist regime you think is "a vibe"
never mind. latter is the case. This poster is a Putin fanboy and Uyghur genocide denier. All his posts read like the typical former /pol/ kid turned tankie.
no doubt i will also get banned for saying this, since they're also moderator here.
go ahead товарищ комиϟϟар, play out your little fash fantasy.
The Soviets near completely eradicated the Baltic intelligentsia by killings and exiles into Siberia. Claiming that all those people had it coming for them is certainly a wild take. Most were exiled for simply being slightly richer than their neighbours.
My wife's grandparents were exiled somewhere near Murmansk, but were returned quite early because grandfather was a millman and Lithuanian SSR was short on those.
Close to me there is a place where on one side of the road, Nazis murdered the Jews and on another side, communists murdered Lithuanian intellectuals. The Nazi side had ruthless efficiency. The Soviet side had inhuman brutality.
Such a profoundly dense thing to post, it could have only been made up by an American. How can anyone have such compartmentilized view of history is truly beyond me, unless of course they are incredibly ignorant or some kind of Putin’s lapdog,
It's mostly narcissism with some ignorance.
I used to hang out in alternative communities. And if you listen to people who promote full communism as a good way to run a society, you realize that their entire proposition hinges on there being no "evil" people. Their mind seems to operate on the idea that their society will be so perfect that there wont be any corrupt people who lie, steal, cheat and try to take advantage of others or if they are they will instantly and always be caught.
Same thing with anarchists. They love to talk all flowery and nice about their mostly anarchist commune with 10 people. And just dismiss the idea that it wouldn't work with 10 million.
What do you think could be a better system?
Fuck all fascists and fuck all communists.
When your ideology justifies genocide it means your ideology is pure evil.
You advocating for Democrats makes you a supporter of that fascism. 50 years of liberal 'lesser evil' was actually incremental fascism
Checks notes on Communism...
Doesn't say anything about genocide here chief.
mao, Stalin ect
Those are leaders that did genocide, not a property of communism. You don't need to do genocide to have a communistic system. Communism was the first economic strategy humans did. It worked just fine without genocide.
Also this is a category error. It's like if someone claimed that capitalism is genocidal. No, it's not. Capitalism like communism is a method to distribute goods and services. Neither have anything to say about genocide.
i see what ur saying, but litlery every implementation of comunism ever has been with an authoritarian govt and that doesnt end well at all
I am not advocating for communism right now. I don't even know how we would make that work given the size and scale of things. I think fascism is a more pressing problem right now anyway. But I think in the future if it seems like we can make something work that looks a bit like communism and it is better than capitalism and we can remain a democratic society, we should be open to it.
I think a nice functional mixed economy is fine, with private property and competition and self regulating markets along with consumer protections and safety nets for poor people and people with mental health problems.
Sounds good, but I do think we need to give the government power to regulate industry and apply pressure to direct the economy generally.
oh definitely, regulations are for sure needed in this. As for the aplication of pressure on the economy, ideally that's what tax cuts would be good for, like universities don't have to pay taxes because the government has valued education and wants to support it. The problem with this is that lobbying can get the govt to give more tax cuts than are needed, and the richest get to pay vastly reduced taxed
Thats how its starts, first you tell them there are nazis and you want to liberate them from the nazis. Than you invade theyr countrie. Read about siberian gulags and how many “nazi grandperants” were sent there before boot licking these commies.
Yeah, or they were LGBTQ+.
Or a slightly different version of communist.
Or any other flavor of leftist.