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Wanna get even angrier? Since the cease fire was agreed, Israel released 150 Palestinian people. In that time, they have also made 133 new arrests of Palestinians for the crime of…celebrating the release of Palestinians.
If this were done by a movie villain, people would criticize it for being too cartoonishly evil and unrealistic.
So are terrorists supposed to be only of adult male?
That you get down voted for this simple fact is really saying a lot about the Kool-aid consumption of some "Israel critics".
simple fact
You misspelled sea-lioning.
If they're terrorists why are you holding them in "administrative detention" indefinitely instead of charging them with crime?
See, that would be a good point to make in a meme. Saying they can't be terrorists (or some other kind of lawful prisoner) because they're teenagers or women however is not a good point.
edit: lol @downvotes
So, as soon as someone shows joy that their daughter who was about to be locked away for 10 years for throwing stones at an IDF soldier, they must be a terrorist?
Just how sure are you that they were just throwing stones?
If you define basically everything palestinians do as "terrorism", you'll have the prisons filled with "terrorists" in no time.
So how do you define "terrorism" exactly?
I don't define it as civil/non-violent defiance against an occupying power. Or being happy that a family member is released from prison.
Ehm, civil-non-violent, eh? One of the released women is Amani Hashim (sp?) 37 y.o. from the West Bank who used her car to ram an Israeli soldier on a check point, seriously injuring him, and then waved a knife on others, while shouting religious slogans... Got convicted and sentenced to 10 years in prison.
I can imagine what would have happened, if that checkpoint wouldn't be there...
You do know what kind of ethnic cleansing and illegal settlement the IDF is currently carrying out in the west bank? Whah kind of resistance do you expect?
Who is being occupied? Israel disengaged from gaza since 2005. Since hamas won the election, they kept threatening israel's existence, so how do you suggest israel should respond with such threat?
Israel is occupying Palestine (including Gaza and the West Bank). They control water, electricity and imports into Gaza and you claim they "disengaged"?
Also: There are Palestinians in Israel. They don't have the same rights that non-jewish people living there do. I.e. They get locked away when showing joy that their family members can leave prisons for ridiculous charges.
Damn, how far fetched are you from reality? The West Bank are controlled by the Palestine Authority and Gaza by Hamas. Since 2005. Read it up. Israel is the one supplying water, electricity and oil to these two area because they're not capable to produce them on their own. Let me ask you. If it were you, would you give your enemy the luxury of all of those? Israel did. And they stopped giving more to gaza after they were threaten by hamas. Justified or not?
Again, what are your sources for these claim? Arabs in Israel does have rights as any Israeli as long they are a citizen. They can vote, they can enter politics, or do any kind of jobs. There are even arab soldiers in the IDF! Palestinian on the other hand are treated like how any country would treats foreign citizens. Of course they won't be let freely to do what they want in a sovereign country. You have to know the difference between an arab israeli and a palestine. And you have to think of Israel as a country. They're controlling the border? Why shouldn't they control their own border?
Israel is the one supplying water, electricity and oil to these two area because they're not capable to produce them on their own.
Fuck you, you racist genocide condoning colonizer.
A small minded person like you couldn't even take this simple fact.
Lol "small minded person". That's the best you got, trying to insult me?
I'm calling you a racist colonizer, because you're basically saying:
These darker skinned natives had it coming. They couldn't even live on the land they've inhabited for centuries, if it weren't for white europeans.
If you can't connect these dots (my guess is that you're probaply too bathed in the consent manufactured by pro-israel propaganda), I guess I'll be the one who has to throw sick burns like "small minded person" around.
Edit: And since you've asked for sources: Is Amnesty International good enough for you?
Fuck you, you racist genocide condoning colonizer.
This is how a lowlife respond to arguments. By mere insult.
I think you're forgetting the fact that the jews have always been living in that piece of land. It's not exclusive to the arab. And check your history lesson. There were never a nation called palestine ever, even before 1948. That piece of land have always been a territory of another nation/empire, one after another. Don't even mention about connecting the dots if you can't even understand a simple history.
This is how a lowlife respond to argument
Average Nazi insult for an average white supremacist.
Palestinians have always lived on that land. They have been of all abrahamic relioions: Jews, christians, and muslims. There is such a thing as arab jews, which white supremacists like you want to erase.
Just because the people living there didn't satisfy the colonialist definitions of nations doesn't erase the rights of people living there to live where they've always lived.
You're probably fine with the native American genocide, too, huh?
I wonder, are you aware of the existence of black Jews? Also a lot of the Israelis today are descendants of people exiled from Middle East countries after 1948.
Trying to paint this conflict as typical racial or colonialism issue is ignoring all the context of what has been going on in that region in last 120 years at least.
I know there are black jews. And Israel manages to be racist against them, too.
Yeah, the zionist ideology is about 120 years old... And was anti-semitic from the start.
Turns out that if you think that the jewish diaspora shouldn't exist, you kinda agree with literal Anti-semites. 🤷
Oh look how you're contradicting yourself..
are we suppose to take the label "terrorist" serious when it comes to the israelis? just because israel labels someone a terrorist it doesn't make it true.
but i know your thought process. it is based on the false premisse that israel is not a terrorist state.
if israel arrests you on the charges of terrorism it doesn't make you a terrorist. it makes you an enemy to a "terrorist state". you can use terror and be a terrorist when fighting israel, but just because you get arrested by idf, it doesn't automatically makes you a terrorist, imho.
Define terrorist.
uses terror to achieve political goal.
Okay, so how can you relate that definition with what both sides are doing? I mean from a non-bias perspective.
clearly, we should boycott, ~~de-invest ~~ Divestment and sanction israel. just like we do with hamas and the pa.
And we should condemn hamas for the evil things they've done.
everyday, in fact international security agencies should do more to help. in fact greater israel should be a international nation new home of the united nations. the us should invade to establish a cease fire until this is established. it is the only way to stop the blood shed. from both sides. after all israeli settlers can't be left without protection until the law is the same for all greater israel citizens.
Both sides should be guaranteed safety from any threats before we can talk about peace.
that is why i said invaded by the united states and not the un. i think us can guarantee israeli safety. but immediate sacrifices must be made, like having to move house for a while, until the peace process is finished. it could work. it would solve a lot of problems. but i know this is pure unfiltered hopism.
edit: we'll do like this. the us takes control of israel, the un control of gaza and the west bank. settlers would be under united states protection until the peace process is finished.
Israel is not a threat to palestine if hamas or any other palestinian stop threatening the israeli. They did accepted the UN plan to coexist side by side at first, something the arab world rejected by jointly attacking israel. Now they're begging to revert to the original plan after israel emerged victorious over them. It is not for us as outsiders to decide, but for among them to find a solution.
Guess israel shouldn't have funded Hamas, then to divide and control palestine, then, huh?
If your sources are conspiracy theories, then what could I say?
Yeah. I got that basically from Breitbart news... /s
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/
Of course one can ask if you need to jail teenagers for throwing rocks at police and military. But asking 'how' is pretty simple: you can look it up. There are laws and if you violate them, you get jailed.
On the other side: maybe ask Hamas where their victims came from. What did the 23 Thai workers did wrong. Or the 10 Nepaelis.
...or even more depressing: ask them where they are. Rumors go around that Hamas doesn't know anymore where all hostages are. Since Hamas fighters where allowed to take individual hostages as trophy back home. You can only imagine what they might do to a single, young and beautiful woman whose only crime was to be at the wrong time at the wrong spot.
That suggests that those jailed have been convicted or even sentenced for crimes. Look up administrative detention.
