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I don't define it as civil/non-violent defiance against an occupying power. Or being happy that a family member is released from prison.
Who is being occupied? Israel disengaged from gaza since 2005. Since hamas won the election, they kept threatening israel's existence, so how do you suggest israel should respond with such threat?
Israel is occupying Palestine (including Gaza and the West Bank). They control water, electricity and imports into Gaza and you claim they "disengaged"?
Also: There are Palestinians in Israel. They don't have the same rights that non-jewish people living there do. I.e. They get locked away when showing joy that their family members can leave prisons for ridiculous charges.
Damn, how far fetched are you from reality? The West Bank are controlled by the Palestine Authority and Gaza by Hamas. Since 2005. Read it up. Israel is the one supplying water, electricity and oil to these two area because they're not capable to produce them on their own. Let me ask you. If it were you, would you give your enemy the luxury of all of those? Israel did. And they stopped giving more to gaza after they were threaten by hamas. Justified or not?
Again, what are your sources for these claim? Arabs in Israel does have rights as any Israeli as long they are a citizen. They can vote, they can enter politics, or do any kind of jobs. There are even arab soldiers in the IDF! Palestinian on the other hand are treated like how any country would treats foreign citizens. Of course they won't be let freely to do what they want in a sovereign country. You have to know the difference between an arab israeli and a palestine. And you have to think of Israel as a country. They're controlling the border? Why shouldn't they control their own border?
Fuck you, you racist genocide condoning colonizer.
A small minded person like you couldn't even take this simple fact.
Lol "small minded person". That's the best you got, trying to insult me?
I'm calling you a racist colonizer, because you're basically saying:
If you can't connect these dots (my guess is that you're probaply too bathed in the consent manufactured by pro-israel propaganda), I guess I'll be the one who has to throw sick burns like "small minded person" around.
Edit: And since you've asked for sources: Is Amnesty International good enough for you?
This is how a lowlife respond to arguments. By mere insult.
I think you're forgetting the fact that the jews have always been living in that piece of land. It's not exclusive to the arab. And check your history lesson. There were never a nation called palestine ever, even before 1948. That piece of land have always been a territory of another nation/empire, one after another. Don't even mention about connecting the dots if you can't even understand a simple history.
Average Nazi insult for an average white supremacist.
Palestinians have always lived on that land. They have been of all abrahamic relioions: Jews, christians, and muslims. There is such a thing as arab jews, which white supremacists like you want to erase.
Just because the people living there didn't satisfy the colonialist definitions of nations doesn't erase the rights of people living there to live where they've always lived.
You're probably fine with the native American genocide, too, huh?
Oh look how you're contradicting yourself..
https://media.tenor.com/NLpAZ2B9PXMAAAAC/sure-jan-brady-bunch.gif
I wonder, are you aware of the existence of black Jews? Also a lot of the Israelis today are descendants of people exiled from Middle East countries after 1948.
Trying to paint this conflict as typical racial or colonialism issue is ignoring all the context of what has been going on in that region in last 120 years at least.
I know there are black jews. And Israel manages to be racist against them, too.
Yeah, the zionist ideology is about 120 years old... And was anti-semitic from the start.
Turns out that if you think that the jewish diaspora shouldn't exist, you kinda agree with literal Anti-semites. 🤷
Ehm, civil-non-violent, eh? One of the released women is Amani Hashim (sp?) 37 y.o. from the West Bank who used her car to ram an Israeli soldier on a check point, seriously injuring him, and then waved a knife on others, while shouting religious slogans... Got convicted and sentenced to 10 years in prison.
I can imagine what would have happened, if that checkpoint wouldn't be there...
https://www.verdicts.co.il/%D7%A2-%D7%A4-6533-18-%D7%90%D7%9E%D7%90%D7%A0%D7%99-%D7%97%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%A0%D7%92%D7%93-%D7%9E%D7%93%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%AA-%D7%99%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%90%D7%9C-24-02-2020/
You do know what kind of ethnic cleansing and illegal settlement the IDF is currently carrying out in the west bank? Whah kind of resistance do you expect?