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Elon Musk has exited the White House—physically, at least.

Donald Trump’s “special government employee” is no longer working within the DOGE offices as he prepares his exit from the Trump administration and focuses more on saving his floundering businesses from failure.

“Instead of meeting with him in person, I’m talking to him on the phone, but it’s the same net effect,” White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles told the New York Post in an interview discussing the Trump administration’s first 100 days.

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[–] karashta@piefed.social 178 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Dude already stole all our data and destroyed every bureau of federal government that was in his way.

And helped destroy most of the others as well. He doesn't need to be there in person.

I want to see these fucking traitors hang.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 25 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

There's a very good chance we see justice now that the neoliberals are out of the DNC. They didn't want to hold Republicans accountable because then people would expect neoliberals to be held accountable as well.

The people want them held accountable, and they'll vote accordingly. With a fair DNC that's the candidate we'll get. And without a neoliberals being shoved down America's throats, winning elections are easy.

People don't blame Biden's admin enough for refusing to hold trump accountable for all the shit from his first term. It wasn't just bad then, it depressed turnout and let trump back in.

Thankfully rational people control the DNC again.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Since when did the neoliberals leave the Democratic party?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The voting members?

It's been a slow shift back to the left for a while.

I feel like you're talking about elected politicians, they're not "the party"

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 1 points 40 minutes ago

Democratic voters are the party's hostages, not the base

[–] darvocet@infosec.pub 22 points 12 hours ago (2 children)
[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago

Even if it's misplaced a bit I feel.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The only rational way to be an optimist is prepare for the worst.

Never put all your eggs in one basket, it costs less than a grand to get kitted out with a rifle and plates, and it's undeniable that it's an effective visual deterrent from police violence at protests

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 4 points 11 hours ago

Ran out of eggs a while back.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Thankfully rational people control the DNC again

Is there a link or story or something about the DNC being changed out? Because afaik the DNC is the same as it ever was, funded by billionaires and PACs to push austerity, market economics and funding for Israel.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Martin

That's the new chair, his track record is winning elections, not raising a bunch of money and still losing like prior chairs.

He ran Minnesota's state party for years and it's a progressive stronghold because he didn't stand in progressive candidates way.

But you want a great sign the DNC isn't in billionaires pockets anymore?

Look at how mainstream media is treating the DNC now, there's all types of talk about how voters don't like the DNC, ignoring that a fresh guard took over in February.

When neoliberals held control of the party, the big news media channels were never critical

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I guess we will see. Since feb I've still gotten a bunch of fundraising txts for shitty candidates that have lost repeatedly in hopeless districts from the DNC. Example: Fl-6 and Fl-1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida%27s_6th_congressional_district
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida%27s_1st_congressional_district

Or Texts from Corey Booker, who has been shitty since before 2016 and yet the DNC keep trying to turn him into the next Obama.

On Mar31 I got a fundraising text from "kamala," yea, no comment needed there.

If you want to win you need to back candidates that are more then just centrist dems who want to be bipartisan.
If you truly believe the GoP are fascists, then you cannot work with them at all and that isn't something I see from many of the current Dems. I guess the crop of candidates for 2026 will be revealing, but looking at Fl-1, the only dem candidate is the same one that has lost the previous 5 times, often by >10% of the vote.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

If you want to win you need to back candidates that are more then just centrist dems who want to be bipartisan.

Welp, again I'd recommend reading up on Martin:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Martin

And I'd be surprised if those texts were really from the DNC, if so it's probably the zombie vestiges of the "victory fund" nonsense still running bots. That's the only plausible reason anyways, for a decade the prior DNC was robbing local/state parties with that stuff, they don't care about the candidates chances because none of it was going to be used for that race anyways

[–] immutable@lemm.ee -2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

The thing I’ve never really understood about this is what kind of data would the government have that would be any use to an LLM?

I’m sure that musk wanted that government data, but you all ever work with the government? Every data set is some weird pile of forms encoded in fixed width field, wrapped in json, plopped into the cdata of an xml node. Fucking enjoy parsing that shit and when you do you realize you have a form some guy filled out in 1972 to register a trailer.

Is the government sitting on some treasure trove of data that you could feed into an LLM as training data? Because that’s what would actually be valuable.

But musk is a fucking moron so I wouldn’t put it past him to break into an empty bank vault and then scuttle away like the fucking roach he is.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

.....why would you assume this was all for a stupid AI?

[–] immutable@lemm.ee -1 points 9 hours ago

I’m open to the idea it’s for something else. Data to feed into AI is the thing people are willing to pay heaps of money for right now. And musk has an AI company so I thought the thinking was “musk is taking data for his stupid ai company”

If that’s not what he’s doing, then what data and for what purpose?

I loathe musk, but having some trouble connecting the dots.

So if not for feeding into xAI, what data do people think he’s taking and what’s he doing with it?

[–] hexonxonx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It has nothing to do with training LLMs.

The US government data (each US citizen's health, tax, etc. records) will be added to the data from Meta, Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and every other tech company that stores "advertising" data to create more complete profiles of each and every US citizen. This data can then be analyzed, filtered, collected and collated by whatever criteria "they" want, for whatever purpose.

NOW the LLMs can be used on this dataset to create lists. Very dangerous (and mostly wrong) lists.

[–] immutable@lemm.ee 0 points 8 hours ago

Well that makes more sense than LLMs I suppose. Doesn’t really make a lot of sense why musk would want that given the one thing he doesn’t run is an ad network.

As someone that works in the tech sector though, this idea doesn’t really seem super compelling. The advertisers already have this data, so it just seems like a weird kind of heist to go pull off.

Advertisers already know how much money you make, what illnesses your suffering from (based on things you search for), I mean we live in an unprecedented surveillance states.

Maybe musk wanted his own version of that to sell to people, that’s a somewhat plausible scenario. This just sounds a lot like a conspiracy theory and the rule for a conspiracy theory is “someone has to make money” for the theory to be true.

Is musk a piece of shit, sure. Does the government have data, yep. Does taking the data from the government make musk money, maybe? I guess in the world where it’s a play for him to close the gap on a bunch of demographic information people can already buy from google or X, which he owns.

So I suppose if we see X or xAI offering significantly improved ad targeting or data brokerage that would make this all hang together.

[–] spamfajitas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 hours ago

Not sure about other agencies but CDC and specifically NCHS typically had to anonymize their health data before public release. If you could use other data points from within the government to connect the dots, that might be valuable to someone.

[–] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 60 points 12 hours ago

He walked in

stole what he wanted

& walked out.

Fuck this whole timeline.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 145 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (4 children)

“Instead of meeting with him in person, I’m talking to him on the phone, but it’s the same net effect,” White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles told the New York Post

So he's still doing what he's doing, just working remotely. Despite no other federal employees getting to work remotely.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 48 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

There's a reason he installed Starlink at the Whitehouse and several other federal buildings

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 59 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

you mean that wasn't to get around any security systems in place so he could upload data to 'remote' servers 'somewhere' outside of the government's control?

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago

¿Por qué no los dos?

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

Outside of the US Government's control, you mean....

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 13 hours ago

Since its starlink its probably not for this purpose, but a commercial internet connection really isn't that uncommon; sometimes its for the TV in the lobby, or free guest WIFI; usually it's for systems that perform a necessary function, but would be crippled by network restrictions.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Same thing.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 2 points 12 hours ago

That’s to keep in touch with his handlers in Moscow

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 14 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Well, he's special! It's right there in his title! He's the specialest little employee. Yes he is! Yes he is!

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. I’ve written my Senators asking who will be keeping track of his communications. Every day he sends an email, message, or makes a call should count as another day worked.

I’d urge you all to do the same until we have a confirmed way to keep tabs on him.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I'd write my House reps, but...

My House rep (left). The other one is just as awful, but not in the spotlight as much.

My senators are old money + age and coal baron who doesn't pay his bills.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

My Representative is trash. I’m stuck in a red district now and it’s rough.

[–] TheHalifaxJones@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago

Where does musk live on his day to day anyway? Would be a shame if we carried protests in front of his home.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I thought he works 120 hours per week as he expects from his employees. Loser.

He could do 40 hours for Tesla, 40 hours for DOGE, and 40 hours for SPACEX. I don't see any problem with that schedule. Lazy wimp.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

You forgot about Neuralink, xAI, The Boring Company...

[–] omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Tesla is still fucked. Never forgive never forget

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 25 points 13 hours ago

yup. starlink might be tanking, too. they're having to give away hardware and discount monthly rates these days.

[–] A_norny_mousse 3 points 10 hours ago

Elon walks into a china shop, destroys everything in sight. Says "oops, better do that over the phone from now on", walks out again.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Ripped the country apart, now proceeding to fuck up twitter some more.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago

What'd be do to Twitter lately?

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 8 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Elon finally found out about the Trump "touch" and how everything Trump touches turns to shit. Elon is not an innocent in this though.

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Elon has the same magical touch.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

It’s incredible just how dumb he is. Like, dude, just throw daddy’s blood money at these startups and let them do their thing. But no, he has to get involved for ego reasons and absolutely wrecks them in the cringiest way possible.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 3 points 11 hours ago

I think you could draw some correlation ratio between his companies' times of success and his involvement. An inverse ratio.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

That’s what happens when you have exceptionally low self esteem and endless amount of money.

[–] Rubanski@lemm.ee 5 points 13 hours ago

The Mierdas Touch

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

I’ve been waiting for this to happen for months. That’s how it always goes with t.

[–] rottenmummy@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago

Want it to be optimistic, but I am very skeptical