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This should be the sticking point to invoke the 25th. Officials need to be loud and make a stink about how Trump can’t tell fact from clear fiction and therefore cannot perform the duties of the office. Make the people of America see the image on the news everyday and make those on his side say out loud if they think it’s fake or real. Half of the masses will never be convinced that he lacks the morality to lead until they’re already in his camps. This is the earliest clear as day moment to act on that which cannot be held to subjective scrutiny or partisanship.

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 74 points 1 day ago (1 children)

These ones are real, though:

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Can someone explain these to me? They seem like Neo Nazi tattoos.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 76 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (55 children)

That's US Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, and they are.

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[–] harmsy@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

They seem that way because they are that way.

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Republicans are fucking pathetic.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Republicans no longer exist. It is the MAGA party, and it has very little in common with the Traditional GOP.

And all MAGAs are Traitors.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

While I agree maga is end stage facism the GOP has been selling out the working class, escalating racism, pushing sexism, attacking unions, attacking civil rights, destroying worker protections, stealing elections, gerrymandering, bowing to corporate interests, destroying the social safety net , starting illegal wars and cutting taxes for the uber wealthy since Reagan. All these failed republican policies account for the entire national debt and then some when added up.

[–] Absaroka@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Full interview is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBwCUPttprw

I really wish some of these reporters would dig in and challenge him. I get that its uncomfortable, but that's your job.

His questions should have been:

  • Do you think he has MS13, marijuana, smile, cross, skull tattooed on his hands? And not added with Photoshop later?
  • Are you saying this combination of tattoos is a code to identify him as a member of MS13? Because gang experts have cast doubt on this interpretation.
  • How many other MS13 members have this exact combination of tattoos on his hand? If its a sign of being a member of the gang, others should have it as well.
  • Do you think a vague and symbolic tattoo is proof of belonging to criminal organization?
  • Does this make your Secretary of Defense a white supremacist? Because he has numerous tattoos associated with that ideology.
  • Do you have any real proof Abrego Garcia is a member of MS-13? And if so why did your administration appeal his protected status in 2019?
[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fully agree, however, the press has done that before and he just shuts down the question with some remark about the reporter and if they press, he walks out. Aside from physical restraint, I don't think we will see him submit to any real questioning.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Then do it. Grill him until he walks out. Over and over. But they won't.

I am really sick of the "mainstream media," which is supposed to be so liberal. What passes for "journalism" these days is appalling.

When the El Salvador dictator met with HitlerPig in the Oval Office, Pam Bondi said that a plane could be sent for Garcia, but it they couldnt do it because they had no control over the landing in El Salvador. Then Trump said it wasnt up to us , it was up to El Salvador, and we couldnt control that. The the El Salvador dictator said that he couldn't "smuggle" Garcia back to America, and he had nonl right to speak for another nation, and that it was a preposterous question.

And that was the end of it. Not one "journalist" stepped up with indignation, and said "Lets end this charade! Literally EVERY, SINGLE PERSON in the entire world that is required to make this decision is in this room right now. Nobody has to say, 'Sounds good, let me run it past the bosses and get back to you.' The people required to make this happen on both sides are literally sitting right next to each other. Why can't you look at each other and agree to make it happen?" And then pushed them to cut a deal, or not, in front of the entire world.

The reporter who would have done that would have become the most famous journalist in the world at that moment. It would have totally changed the trajectory of their career, but not one of them did it. They seem to think that their job is to provide a platform for the MAGA Nazis to spew their propaganda, unchallenged.

And perhaps that is exactly their jobs, as demanded by their owners, who are Sociopathic Oligarchs and Corporations who have donated to HitlerPig's Inauguration fund.

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

How I long to be able to interrogate him and just be able to grab him by the neck uncomfortably tightly when he starts spewing some non-answer shit out of his mouth.

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[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 121 points 2 days ago (5 children)

He thinks the "M S 1 3" in #000 black Ariel font is really part of the picture.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 148 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's surprising Trump's own tattoos don't get more attention.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 75 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump kept insisting: “No, no: He had ‘MS’ as clear as you can be, not ‘interpreted.’"

That is astonishingly—but unsurprisingly—stupid.

It's one thing to insist that tattoos of a weed leaf, a smily face with "x" for its eyes, a cross, and a skull are pictographs for "M S 1 3". It's another to be such a dumbass that you think the superimposed text trying to explain that interpretation is the tattoo.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Wait, what? I missed that detail. He thought the numbers and letters were part of the tattoo? LOL

Sweet Baby Jesus put that man in a nursing home. He shouldn't be handling metal cutlery, let alone the nuclear launch codes.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is the guy that stared into the sun during an eclipse.

This is the guy that thinks stealth planes are invisible.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

This is the guy that thinks "clean coal" is when they dig it up then wash it.

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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 48 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I had a long drawn out argument with a guy who insisted that HitlerPig was saying that the "tattoo" was just labelling his other tattoos, despite his original post clearly calling it a tattoo, and multiple sunsequent statements insisting it was a tattoo.

Obviously it wasn't a tattoo, and this guy was insistent that HitlerPig never claimed it was, when he did, over and over, and here he is, still sticking to it.

The point is that these people believe whatever nonsense they make up is the truth, despite all evidence to the contrary.

"Dont bother me with facts, my mind's made up."

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

The real reason he will justify this bullshit like that is because he has to admit hes racist otherwise, "if hes brown I want him gone from my town" basically. Ask him if we should be deporting white right wing gang members based on their tattoos and show him cropped photos of Hegseths tats.

[–] ijon_the_human@lemmy.world 83 points 2 days ago (13 children)
[–] A_norny_mousse 111 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

So just to be fair, whoever made that tried to illustrate that the 4 symbols - in their imagination - represent "M S 1 3". Which in itself is ludicrous. And even if they did, that's still no reason to deport him.

Anyhoo, Trump's reply when someone dared try to explain this to him:

“That was Photoshopped? Terry, they’re giving you the big break of a lifetime. You’re doing the interview. I picked you because, frankly, I’d never heard of you, but that’s OK,” Trump said. “You’re not being very nice.”

This is everyday tyranny in action. It's also very dumb and very delusional. Louis XIV levels.

How is this farce still going on?

But then, just yesterday I learned a little about El Salvador and their idiot president. Who am I kidding. As long as the people go with it, it's possible no matter how ludicrous. I still say it's social media algorithms that got us here.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago

Don't forget MSM sane washing everything he does.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

it’s social media algorithms that got us here

Definitely, but those that were pumped with money for fake ads to convince idiots to vote for destruction

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

It was the combination of hyper-capitalism and the Russian playbook to destabilize the west that got us here.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 days ago
[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 48 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Holy shit. I thought this was clearly intentional propaganda targeting the very extremely dumb that would take the mistaken impression from it without any of them being on record saying the fake part, but did no one tell him?

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

I think it was created as a markup to explain why they thought the ambiguous tattoos were problematic, I hope they would have assumed no one would be stupid enough to think he literally had tattoos that managed to be flat perfect text in pure black in a photo.

But it turns out Trump is literally that stupid. Or it is convenient so he doesn't have to field answers like "where's some corroborating evidence to back up the claimed meaning".

Of course all of this is almost beside the point. We shouldn't be doing this in the court of public opinion, it should be in front of a real judge and if deported it should be in compliance with orders that he be deported to anywhere but Salvador, and even if someone deports to El Salvador, we shouldn't just directly deport straight to a prison that may not even have anything to do with country of origin.

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[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Trump is stupid. He needs to be removed from office.

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[–] wagesj45@fedia.io 31 points 2 days ago (7 children)

"Photoshopped? You can't do that, Terry."

LOL

Unirionically our funniest president. Shame he might be our last.

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