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    Bazzite has a very simple process for installing software that isn't on Flatpak: You spin up a virtual machine running a better distro and install it there

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    [–] giacomo@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    its in the ubuntu or debian toolbox. distrobox is pretty freaking awesome.

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    [–] gingernate@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 days ago

    It would be DNF in this case

    [–] whostosay@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (9 children)

    rpm-ostree install would like to have a word with you

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    [–] MonkeBizNES@lemmy.cafe 19 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    I love bazzite for handheld consoles but before I install it on my desktop there needs to be version based on ordinary 'non-immutable' fedora kde. That being said, immutable distros are more stable

    [–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

    Unlikely to happen. Not only is all their build tooling etc. made for immutable distros (and they have a lot of other ones besides Bazzite), but it would also mean throwing away the biggest advantages for little gain.

    What's your problem with the image based OS?

    If there's really anything you need, you can layer it or build your own image quite easily.

    [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    I've been using it on my laptop for over 6 months now and it has been fantastic.

    I mean, if you're really hardcore, you can build your own immutable distro image using the distro you want... but that's way above my paygrade. I don't think it's that difficult, just something I have no intention of learning.

    [–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

    I switched from Bazzite to Garuda to get away from it being immutable. It's been great.

    So, Nobara?

    I would have stuck with Nobara, which is the first Linux distro I really tried, but it was maintained by one person and eventually they're going to get burned out or worse. I figured it would be better to just go with a distro that had a whole team working on it.

    [–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    What are you running Bazzite on? I'm using it on my Legion Go as my daily driver. I love it for the most part, but there's still plenty to learn.

    [–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    Not OP, but I've got Bazzite on my Steam Deck and Bluefin on my laptop as my daily. I'm rather loving the set it and forget it nature of it while still having plenty of room to play when I need to.

    [–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 3 points 2 days ago

    I use bazzite on my desktop.

    The problem with the set it and forget it nature is that when updates stop working, it "forgets" to tell you.

    If you layer any packages, you will run into this, but even without package layering, there have been a number of bugs reported recently about this.

    I have auto updates and notifications on (and I switched them off and on again and verified the settings) and haven't gotten a single update notification for months even though I can update manually successfully.

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    [–] bappity@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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    [–] Spider89@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I have Debian on my Legion Go because of this.

    [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    You could have just made a Debian distrobox

    [–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    But why, though? Why not just use the better distro directly?

    [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    Because I play games on my PC and bazzite works wonderfully for that right out of the box?

    Because I like the concept of an immutable distro and not having to ever worry about an update breaking my install, and not being able to boot to my desktop ever again?

    What makes it a "better distro" exactly?

    Also, I can install/run packages from any other distro and package manager from there, not just "the better distro." I use it to access the AUR for example. There aren't many limitations there at all. While also being incredibly stable...

    [–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I have nvidia, so Debian works better for gaming personally

    [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    Well, I can't speak to that as I have no experience with it. I do know that bazzite has a couple preconfigured "ujust" commands related to setting up nvidia drivers. No idea how well it works.

    [–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    Bazzite desktop seems to be completely usable with a 20XX+ card. It's Gaming Mode that boots straight into steam big picture mode that where all of the issues lie.

    Cards below do suffer even on desktop though and can regularly crash due to an instability in their drivers when using wayland.

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    Because it's a lot easier to get Bazzite running Debian than Debian running PC games. This ain't the 90's, gaming on Linux doesn't need to be hard just so you can call youself a 1337 Linux haxor.

    [–] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Are you a Bazzite dev?

    It's okay, I promise we still like Bazzite. We're just haha-ing over here, nothing personal.

    [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    I am not, I just really like it lol... And people seem to have lots of misconceptions about it so I like to try to clear that stuff up when I see it.

    [–] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

    As a long time Linux user, I can relate 100%

    [–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I moved to Cachy for my Ally now. It's swap implementation allow me to set the VRAM on auto and play Last Epoch and my TTW install without crashing due to running out of RAM.

    [–] russjr08@bitforged.space 1 points 1 day ago

    Ooh! Is that swap implementation the default? I got back into LE for the launch of the newest season, and while I haven't had any problems on my Ally or Deck yet, I just finished the campaign so I'm barely into endgame - I hear the issues start as you get deeper into monos...

    Funnily enough, I use Cachy on my desktop, but I don't recall seeing anything regarding this, but I'm definitely happy to run it on my Ally too if it helps avoid future potential crashes.

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    [–] Eeyore_Syndrome@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    I don't technically consider container images as virtual machines proper....but what do I know.

    Hey checkout DistroShelf.

    And APPIMGs aren't so bad. Brew is nifty as well.

    [–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    I though BoxBuddy was installed by default on uBlue distros? It works quite well, too.

    [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago

    I can confirm that BoxBuddy is installed by default on Bazzite.

    I think some people just haven't read the documentation, and think it's flatpak or bust.

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