Murder is where you kill an innocent person. Killing a spree killer, esp during the spree, is just defending people. Hopefully the jury is made cognizant of that.
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Luigi is a hero. But not because he killed a CEO, or anyone. Because he was framed by the government, dragged through the mud, humiliated publicly, and held his head high standing 10 feet tall. Not guilty plea is nothing less than I expected. We should all take note of his example. They can't beat us all if we resist.
Solidarity aside, whenever you are arraigned, any lawyer worth their salt will advise you to plead not guilty, because entering a guilty plea means it's over, move on to sentencing, where you have no leverage at all.
You can always change a not guilty plea to a guilty plea later, if a plea deal offered by the prosecution is acceptable to you. This is especially relevant in a case where the death penalty is on the table, but also applies to the possibility of reduced charges or penalties in any case.
I'll also add that this case could well end up with an Alford plea. In short, where the defendant asserts innocence, does not admit to the criminal act, but accepts the sentence because they believe that a jury would find them guilty based on the evidence. Again, this is definitely related to a case where the death penalty is on the table.
I'd be very disappointed in any jury who found him guilty
Having been on a jury,
People are dumb and have no empathy
~~Having been on a jury~~
People are dumb and have no empathy
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Realistically they'll try arrange one that will. They're going to try secure a guilty verdict by any means necessary to make an example out of him.
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Ideally, a jury's responsibility is to weigh the evidence and find whether the evidence supports a guilty verdict beyond a reasonable doubt.
There has been no jury selection yet, let alone presentation of evidence. I would guess that any jury nullification would depend on a defense tactic of "Yes, my client committed this act, and his motive was to prevent UHC from directly causing the deaths of their customers by refusing to honor legitimate claims or by delaying payment of claims." There might be something there, especially since UHC changed its stance on something (I forget exactly what right now) in the wake of their CEO being killed.
But that would be a really difficult defense to mount. You'd basically be admitting to the act and hoping that at least one person on the jury would A) agree with your defense, and B) be willing to hold out over it, and C) not be replaced by an alternate for "failure to follow jury instructions" or some such thing.
Again, since a jury has not even been selected, I won't speculate on what evidence gets presented and what evidence (if any) ends up being excluded. By extension, I cannot agree with your above comment.
Please note that I am also not saying "He's guilty, he should hang", because that would also entail speculating on evidence.
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I believe him.
He couldn't have done it! He was having a couple beers with me at the time that CEO died
I remember that night! He was buying rounds for the whole bar, what a great guy!
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Well, that settles it then. Better release him for the sake of Government Efficiency and all that.
“He who saves his country commits no crime “
Watch out, fascists love that motto
That kid didn’t do it. They are railroading him too hard and committing too many procedural violations for it to be anything but a setup.
Any normal case a judge would throw everything out for how prejudicial the state has behaved.
The face they don’t care how blatantly prejudicial they are shows they don’t care if he did it or not.
He didn’t do it.
The CEOs wife had hmm killed for meeting his side piece there.
The assassin was from El Salvador or something.
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He's guilty of stealing my heart tho
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Luigi Mangione is a hero of the people.
Nah he was just framed as one
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Seeing the way Luigi was carrying himself, and his facial expressions, makes me wonder. Does he actually have a cast-iron allibi just waiting to be revealed?
I have not seen genuine evidence it was actually him. This wouldn't even be the first or last time evidence was planted on someone to paint a narrative.
The way I see it, they needed a scapegoat. Because how do you just lose a murderer in broad daylight?
There's no way someone smart enough to do all that somehow gets hungry and loafs around at a McDonald's? The real killer collected his bounty and is living on a remote island by now.
They needed to do anything to stop copycats from popping up, and they did an okay job at doing so.
The picture they showed and Luigi… looks like two different people.
I hope his lawyers is using the Chewbacca defense.
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Prosecutor: Could you find defendant guilty?
Potential juror: I could.
Narrator: They couldn't.
I don't think jury nullification will be needed. I legit think that Luigi didn't do it. Meaning a simple acquittal is all what is needed.
As for the real killer? I hope he lives a long and quiet life.
This is 100% the approach I'm betting the defense will take. "Yeah he did it but he deserved it" would be a great story but an absolute dipshit defense to take. Court of law is separate from court of public opinion, and unless they can prove he did it without reasonable doubt then not guilty is the way to go.
I mean, the only other option is to plead guilty, and nobody would do that. So this was kind of expected.
If the eyebrows don't fit, you must acquit.
Free this man. The wealthy psychopaths need something to be fearful of as it's the only emotional trigger that will keep their behavior from genociding the poor.
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Flushing a toilet isn't a crime.
Who's that guy? Doesn't look like the guy they were searching for. At all.
Good, honestly we don't even know if he's the person who did the crime.
Yeah that tracks. He was walking my dough at the time.
World needs fewer Elons and more Luigis
Federal prosecutors claimed in their new filing that Mangione deserves the death penalty because of "the impact of the victim's death upon his family, friends and co-workers" and because "he expressed intent to target an entire industry and rally political and social opposition to that industry, by engaging in an act of lethal violence."
I just want to remind everyone of the impact of many of Thompson's murders on their family, friend, and co-workers, all in the service of the money masters' sheer, unadulterated, insatiable greed.
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He should be acquitted specifically to make a point. A certain type of individual may or may not be safe if said person performs against the interest of their constituents.
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He can’t have done it, I saw him on the day and I don’t live in the US. He’s telling the truth.
Good. All the best to him.
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