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Announcing a new rule: "no generative AI content" (feddit.uk)

submitted 5 days ago by lazycog@feddit.uk to c/buyeuropean@feddit.uk

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A while ago we had a post with a comic that was a bit controversial due to it being generated by genAI, but we did not explicitly have a rule against it.

We wanted to discuss this and ask the community, but this apparently had already been a topic on feddit.uk for awhile and they have made a instance rule about it (announced in this post).

Since buyeuropean community is on feddit.uk, the feddit.uk rules apply to this community and therefore I wanted to announce this new rule so it doesn't come as a surprise.

Copy of the post body text from the announcement of this rule on feddit.uk:

So no:

AI generated memes of images

AI generated answers to questions

edit: this applies to feddit.uk communities, we won’t block AI art communities on other instances or sanction our users for posting on them.

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[–] gruzi1gais@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Weird rule. Im against it. And I look at ai art neutral, its just a tool.

[–] Blaze@feddit.nl 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Thank you for announcing it, I never noticed any AI generated content here, but still better safe than sorry

[–] lazycog@feddit.uk 15 points 5 days ago

Yeah it seemed like community had some thoughts about it and better to have a clear entry about that in the sidebar.

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle 18 points 5 days ago

First community to actually do something about this 🙏

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

How will you possibly enforce this?

[–] lazycog@feddit.uk 4 points 4 days ago

Well, like any other rules. The community helps a lot with this.

Most of the time it's clear and OP doesn't hide the fact - in those cases we hope OP checks the rules before posting and then decides not to.

But, let's say some popular post gets a lot of comments, one of the comments is just two lines of harmless AI text so no one pays attention or knows it's genAI and therefore no one reports it: we wont notice and the comment that technically breaks the rules is staying. The commenter has either not read the rules or, if they have, is celebrating their victory at home for passing the great mod filter wall.

Mods are just normal users part of this community and volunteered to moderate this community when they can. Mostly we have been acting on reports by other users of this community and we filter out troll posts and comments that are just e.g. racist, transphobic, etc.

We don't have some fine modding tools that parse every post and comment, if no one notices / reports rule breaking content then it won't be acted upon.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I want to mention I'm personally not against AI generated content, and don't know why so many people seem against all forms of AI, especially when it comes to images, but i am against wrong information and low effort crap so it will just say you do you feddit.uk and good of our community to follow the instance.

[–] noretus@sopuli.xyz 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm against it because of the questionable ways AI gets trained (stealing art or books for example) and also because of the environmental impacts.

With the unethical training habits and energy consumption from megacorps, in addition to just being brain-killing slop, AI generated content should have no place in social media. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sorcerer%27s_Apprentice

[+] huppakee@lemm.ee -24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I agree those two are bad things, but it is to me not enough reason to ban it entirely.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 21 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You're ignoring one very problematic aspect: these artists and authors they're stealing from? They have no way to opt-in or opt-out. These multi-billion dollar companies can just slurp up whatever they want, and they do. What's your favorite web comic artist or indie musician going to do? Sue them? With what money?

Nowhere is consent a consideration, and until these companies start acting in good faith and instead of like billionaires (fat chance), they should not be allowed to run their slop generators.

If you generally mean "machine learning," I agree that there's good applications, such as in medicine. The arts, though? It has no business there.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

What's your take on AI like Adobe's Firefly? it's supposedly trained on their own licensed stock images, the artists get paid and they can opt-in / opt-out.

Edit: How on earth do people downvote a question? I want to know something. Why bury my inquiry? Did you guys actually read my post? I'm not defending any company. I'm ASKING about what the company claims, to LEARN.

[–] Pixel_Crafter@lemm.ee 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It was not, their claims are not verifiable as they also used "third party datasets" without disclosing which ones. Also supposedly opt-out options appeared after they used their stocks to train/fine tune Firefly which contradict their promise of notifying users before doing so and likely illegal in most European countries. To add to that, their stocks are not curated/moderated and anyone can upload the whole collection of an artist there without agreement (opt-out is a deeply flawed system that protect no one), not to mention that the "pay" the contributors received was absolutely ridiculous...

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Thanks for clarifying. Very informative. I agree with your POV, it's logical. I still don't get why people downvoted my question.

[–] lazycog@feddit.uk 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah my main interest in this community is the topic, and thankfully this doesn't really affect this community dramatically since the content that people post is generally not related to AI.

And anyway, good to have clear guidelines. There are plenty of communities where the focus is AI (or anti-AI) and for feddit.uk users who want to participate still can (the ban is about communities hosted on feddit.uk, they are not defederating or banning AI on remote communities).

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago

I think living in a democracy (and I consider this also as one, dispute there not being elections) is accepting I don't make the rules. And in that case I rather have clear rules I disagree with than vague rules that give me a desire to argue about my interpretation of them all the time.

Also good that we follow the instance, since that means that if people have a problem with a certain rule than there is a set place for that discussion and we as a community can be free of arguments about them. Plus if I want to try and change a certain rule, I know where I need to direct my time and energy to.