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Was there even a mass exodus? I largely avoid Reddit now, but I do kind of doubt that they've been hurt in any meaningful way by all the protests and people leaving...

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[–] badelf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It would be really cool if all us ex-redditers sued Reddit and Google for "unjust enrichment" which is a cause of action in most states. They're are currently taking OUR comments and selling them, meanwhile paywalling the platform. If each of us went to the county clerk and sued them for whatever is the maximum for small claims court, it could be thousands of petty little lawsuits that would cost them a fortune in lawyers. Or end up being a class action suit that could put them out of business. If they ignore the suit, they lose. When you file the suit, you file a discovery asking reddit and google to provide all your comments properly identified by date, etc,; And also for copies of their contract and to identify and produce any other party and contract that they may have sold your comments to. That alone is a huge pain in the butt for them. You have to prove that you contributed to reddit, that they sold your comments and earned money. I can't do this as a nomad, but it would be cool. Could be a good exercise for a young lawyer here.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago
[–] ComptitiveSubset@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Fuck Reddit. I’m here now and it’s great.

[–] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No idea, and I don't care. What matters for me is that there are enough people on Lemmy to keep it interesting.

[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idk, I deleted my account when the protests happened and got a little curious when Brodie posted a video on lemmy.

Towards the end it felt like there were a lot more smart asses, dead jokes, and gate keepers ruining the fun anyway. It may just be me but it felt really unique/full of originality at first and then it really became full of the same thing over and over again.

[–] voluble@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think karma whoring is a real problem for that site. Any post that reaches a popular critical mass gets slammed with people trying to make a quick joke or pun for upvotes, and so even commentary on popular news stories was filled with fluff, memes, or basic circlejerking. The karma system also incentivizes this really shitty dunking culture that is so bad for discourse.

It might come here eventually if lemmy gets popular enough. But even if it does the platform as a whole is just more righteous and worthwhile. It doesn't exist as a commercial entity to drive engagement in order to satisfy advertisers, and that's something really unique and different in our day & age.

[–] kissland@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

only thing i cant stand about lemmy is trying to understand what the fuck it is and how it works.

some top post about a “sub”? “lemmy place”? idk what to call it, “defederating from us”. does that mean from all lemmy things, that lemmy thing? what does it mean to defederate? is there an easy way to browse for subs like reddit?

[–] k110111@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Gonna give it a shot, so you know how there is reddit and it has communities and those communities have posts which have comments etc. Now imagine there are 2 reddits, Addit and Bddit both are exactly same in infrastructure/software stuff but obviously different users, communities and content but since the infrastructure is the same, both Addit and Bddit decided that it would be cool if user@addit could interact and do reddit stuff on Bddit and vice versa. The software that does this is lemmy, anyone can make a reddit like website with this and all users of that website will be able to interact with every other lemmy website. So lemmy is a group pf reddit. Now as you can imagine, website owner can decide which other website can interact with their website, this interaction is called "federating" so defederation means that blocking a certain website (also reffered as lemmy instance), as an example, addit could block bddit or vice versa so users of addit can not interact with bddit.

Now the concept of fediverse is also similar, in that case fediverse is a goup of fedi services, think a group of lemmy like services where each service has a group of websites/instances. This is possible because most of these services have similar things inside them, like each will have users, posts, comments etc so user@lemmy_instance@lemmy can interact with user@mastodon_instance@mastodon. All this is govern by ActivityProtocol. Honestly i don't know to what extent these interactions are possible.

Sooooo in short lemmy= network/group of reddit like websites Fediverse= network/group of lemmy like services

[–] soulifix@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we're perfectly honest - No.

Reddit has over 53 some odd million users. Million with an M. Lemmy has gained, at most, upwards of just thousands. To call it a 'mass exodus' is really overselling it.

It's going to take a fairly long time, for Lemmy to even scratch 100k even. I'm on both Reddit and Lemmy. Lemmy, for a more positive experience. Reddit, because the numbers are just there.

[–] althea_vestrid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This crisis has given Lemmy enough users to be a vibrant, viable alternative with the software and apps undergoing rapid development. This means the next time that reddit tries to pull some shit, there will be somewhere for people to go, unlike this time. Lemmy just wasn't really ready for prime time.

[–] ButhJolokia@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think you are correct. Lemmy is really just gearing up at the moment, but can't handle the volume to compete with reddit.

The increase of instances, user guides, communities and third party apps are necessary building stones of a federated reddit alternative of size.

[–] TheKombiZombi@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

There was no mass migration (yet). For starters, I'd say that the majority already uses the official Leddit app and does not care (like two out of three people I know who casually browse).

It also doesn't help that some apps like RIF still work in some capacity. At the moment you can still browse non-NSFW, but only logged out, and that's enough for some.

Furthermore, this only reflects mobile usage. I still browse Reddit using old reddit (up until they kill that), but have deleted all my content and refrain from posting new comments.

As much as I want to say we wonnered, we are the vocal minority. Some subs I frequent, like /r/PCMasterRace and /r/leagueoflegends didn't even protest.

Yes, Reddit posts have subjectively felt more repost-y and soulless, but we don't have the insight.

There was no mass migration. Quite a few communities I enjoyed don't even exist in a meaningful way over here. Perhaps after 3rd party apps truly die, awards are gone, and they kill old reddit, but that's a big if, not when.

[–] AngryBear@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy right now is too.. well not clumsy exactly, but it does feel vague with all these seperate iterations like .world or .ml and they are seperate and require seperate logins etc so that’s not handy at all. People are used to ease of use, this is where (for now) Reddit remains king.

[–] Syndic@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy does have a problem where people don't get the idea behind it. But it's not required to have seperate logins for instances which are federated. This very post I do with my @feddit.de account and when you check other user names you'll see users from other instances as well.

[–] AngryBear@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can’t login to .ml, that fact is confusing. You say federated and I think I get that, but I think to most people not in the IT world, that’s basically “abracadabra”.

[–] Syndic@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

You don't need to login to lemmy.ml. As long as lemmy.world and lemmy.ml don't block each other you will see posts from both servers.

I'm currently browsing on feddit.de and saw this thread on the "all" feed. By default your filter might be set to local only.

[–] Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

The timing of /r/place nullified any possibility evidence of an effect, as a ton of streamer featured this event, creating traffic. I wouldn't be surprised if they got a huge net profit this month.

[–] bratorange@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it important that Reddit suffers? For me the important thing is that lemmy flourishes and has good oc.

[–] Jagermo@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Right? Ignore them, have fun here. No reason to give any thought to them.

[–] madthumbs@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Lol? Before the 'protest'; there was a lot of bitching about the mods. The control freak mods moved on and now Reddit has a better atmosphere for it. I don't see anyone bitching about the mods anymore; just some petty bitching about Spez.