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[–] SlothMama@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Attitudes about gays and transgenders actually got worse coming from the 1960s into the 1980s. The sexual revolution actually created a generation far more open and accepting, and the culture that lead to things like the Satanic panic, war on drugs, and resurgence of patriotism and religiosity in the United States actually made things worse for gay and trans.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Indeed, and in a broader view, humanity has literally always had trans people as long as it has had a concept of gender. So "in the 80s" is emphasizing the cultural lie that acceptance is a recent phenomenon, when actually bigotry about it is the recent phenomenon. The 80s were certainly not an amazing time for LGBTQ folk, but Playboy at least would have been sex-positive and accepting.

So this isn't a "stopped clock is right twice a day" situation, because sex-positive spaces and media would have been more reliable clocks than the culture at large, when it came to this subject.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't Play Boy rather progressive at all times? What's the broken clock?

I really hate peoples' misconstruing of attraction with objectification. The presence of nudity doesn't make something bad, exploitative, or wrong. The presence of someone attractive does not mean that is the entire point.

[–] ysjet@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Good lord no, playboy was always super misogynistic. Hugh Hefner was MASSIVELY problematic lol.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I won't defend Hefner, but the articles genuinely were (and are) as far to the left as you'll see in any widely circulated publication. Being associated with porn gave them cover to write whatever they wanted.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Penn Jillette was a writer for playboy, and Margret Atwood, Kurt Vonnegut, Roald Dahl

Like tons of famous autrhors.

[–] Feirdro@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Don’t forget your favorite kids poet, Shel Silverstein

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago

I actually love this

[–] MuhammadJesusGaySex@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

So, for anyone that’s curious, testicles are weird pain wise. They have a lot of pressure sensitive nerves on the surface of the testicles themselves. But if you, for example, were to hypothetically push a needle like object into the center of a testicle. You would feel the pressure of the needle pushing on the testicle, but once it pops through there is very little sensation at all.

Edit: Even though this is true this is NOT medical advice. Do not do this as it could have potentially serious consequences. I feel like I shouldn’t have to say this, but here we are.

[–] Sharpiemarker@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago

I'll just file that under "things I never wanted to know."

The closest I can relate is having a vasectomy but even then the pain is in the recovery.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The joke itself does a kind of bait & switch, it makes you think it’s going to be a trans joke, but then the last line sort of subverts expectations. The trans portion is necessary for the setup, as the punchline doesn’t make much sense without it, but it’s more a gender inequality joke.

[–] ArachnidMania@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Thanks peter

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

"Not offensive" fucking narcissist lol. It doesn't offend the trans community, no, instead it raises one of the biggest problems that 49% of the population has, for which there is no reason beyond that our meritocracy - not all, just ours - operates on sexist principles. If it doesn't offend you you aren't paying attention to what's really important, which of course is always the problem with the sex obsessed.

I mean, it's a good joke, but to call it not offensive is to self identify as male.

[–] evranch@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

So, uh, that's the joke.

We should probably call some physicists to document this, as it's rare that you see such a perfect superposition of both getting the joke and not getting it. You may in fact be entangled with the joke now... Do you feel unusual in any way?