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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 131 points 1 week ago (28 children)

"Both sides bad" is why we have Trump.

Democrats took America from gays are illegal, to full gay rights with marriage. Environmental laws have been all Democrats. If Democrats did nothing, Trump wouldn't have signed 76 executive orders reversing Biden orders on his very first day.

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 72 points 1 week ago (13 children)

No, the DNC is why we have trump. It’s on them.

Obama wasn’t perfect at all, but his platform was at least change and progress. While he was originally against gay marriage he did listen to the public and change for re-election. If the DNC listened to the public instead of fighting against progress that would be great. But like… Biden was the throw away to conservatives for Obama’s VP to “balance out” Obama being progressive….And now he was their best idea on what to do for a better future? It’s pathetic, and demonstrates the above.

No one is trying to say Biden was worse than trump. They’re saying the DNC is what even allowed trump to exist, by being greedy fucks who care more about their handlers than the American people and running the worst candidates they can. “Nothing will fundamentally change” is the dumbest, most “fuck you don’t bother to vote for me” fucking campaign I’ve ever heard.

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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (52 children)

Democrats took America from gays are illegal, to full gay rights with marriage.

Gay marriage was legalized at the federal level by a conservative-leaning Supreme Court. The only time a Democrat acted on same-sex marriage nationally was when Bill Clinton banned it by signing DOMA in 1996.

Environmental laws have been all Democrats.

Nixon created the EPA.

If Democrats did nothing, Trump wouldn't have signed 76 executive orders reversing Biden orders on his very first day.

If Democrats passed legislation, Biden's achievements couldn't be undone through executive order.

The parties are not the same, especially now that one of them is openly fascist, but you're giving Democrats credit for things they did not do. Also, the meme doesn't say they're the same, it describes the rachet effect, which is an accurate representation of how Democrats behaved on multiple issues. Look at how their economic policies have changed over the last 30 years, or how their views on immigration policies have changed since Trump was elected.

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[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 125 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Before you reply to me directly please understand:

  1. The US overthrew democracy in the country I am from
  2. The US installed a fascist king with secret police that terrorized my family
  3. Once kicked out the US supported a dictator in the neighboring country where the other half of my family lived
  4. The US funded both sides of a war between my country and the neighboring one that led to mass civilian deaths, one side directly by giving a dictator weapons and cash and the other side clandestinely thru laundering money by selling drugs in Latin America
  5. Once they lost that war turned on the dictator in the neighboring country and invented reasons to illegally invade. Twice
  6. Toppled the regime and left a power vacuum that consumed all my family that lived there for literally hundreds of years.
  7. Created material conditions in the country my family is from that forced them to leave or die

You Americans are not the good guys, your country and government is evil to its core.

[–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Have you considered being born to a wealthy white family in the West? I hear it's much easier

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[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, but you're a foreigner, so your life doesn't' matter.

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[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Here is the education that you need to take over the Democratic Party:

David Hogg, the new Vice Chair of the DNC, has allocated $20M to primary out the old appeasers, and replace them with youthful progressives to create a true opposition party.

Democratic primaries only see ~20% turnout in congressional elections. 30/50 states have partisan primaries, meaning you must be registered as a Democrat to vote in the Democratic primary. This was a contributing factor in Bernie’s 2016 loss.

Rather than progressives and leftists fracturing over third-parties, we need to all block vote progressives into the Democratic Party through primaries and replace the deadwood centrists that have been content with the status quo.

Check your state’s primary type here: https://ballotpedia.org/Primary_election_types_by_state

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[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 1 week ago (43 children)

You had a choice OP

  1. Vote to maintain a bad status quo
  2. Vote to make things a billion times worse via fascism
  3. Start a revolution

Instead you chose secret option d. Make 'both sides equally bad' memes to justify the acceptance of fascism.

Always vote against the fascist. Or revolt.

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[–] segabased@lemmy.zip 50 points 1 week ago (25 children)

This fact doesn't really invalidate the initial statement though.

We would not be experiencing what we are currently experiencing presently if the Dems won. This isn't an endorsement of the Dems, just reality

I view voting as a means to steer us to possibilities. Revolution and change won't come through the ballot box but who gets voted in can influence that one way or another.

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[–] NovaOG@lemm.ee 50 points 1 week ago

I try to remind people that we have no "Leftist" party or even a "Centre left" party anymore. We have Center right and far right now.

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dear Liberals,

  1. I am so glad I can't see the bullshit from lemmy.world on my server

  2. Your economic system guarantees fascism. You can't vote your way out of it. Capitalist modes of production inevitably concentrate power and lead to fascism. It is unavoidable.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

This is why revolution and working class organization is necessary.

Also funny when people complain about Leftists critiquing the Dems. Pre-election you said to wait, now it's post election and the same complaints arise.

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[–] nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 week ago (4 children)

That's right, everybody knows that the left and the right are perfectly equally bad, and the act of voting to stop the bleeding and starting a revolution are mutually exclusive /s

And then after years of this nonsense, people wonder how the poor voter turnout that got the fascist elected happened.

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[–] fluppy@lemm.ee 33 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The absolute highest priority in American politics should be getting rid of the 2 party system. I’m not going to pretend to know how exactly, but I think a good step in the right direction would be some form of a ranked voting system.

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[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (25 children)

From an outsider's perspective it seems like the Democrats behave like that because the US electorate is genuinely right-wing and need pandered to.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 week ago (31 children)

The Democrats suck but there's a huge difference between voting for boring corporatists and 100% concentrated evil. Don't make me tap the chart.

[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (29 children)

"boring corporatists" are destroying our planet and making it unlivable.

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[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (19 children)

And there's a huge difference between fifty degrees below zero and absolute zero. But both are lethal to humans if exposed to it for a night.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The neat part about voting is that even if you do it you can get fascism if the rest of the country are a bunch of fucking idiots.

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (5 children)

This has to be the most brain dead community on Lemmy, still pulling this “Both sides” bullshit

[–] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (52 children)

I don't know on which community we currently are, but this is the most accurate depiction of what's actually going on. Democrats serve the corporate elite and don't really bother turning it left.

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