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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

It's the people at the company working that make the money. So technically the people create their own jobs or smth. A company should be owned by the workers at that company and they should get to elect leading personnel. I think this sounds rad.

[–] porkins@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I want to have a serious conversation on this if possible. As devil’s advocate, if I want to start a business that helps people, what would I have to do to not run afoul and garner this type of criticism? Are you indicating that I must relinquish my business once it gets too big and that I am only entitled to a certain amount of success? Are you indicating that I must pay my workers far beyond what the free market dictates they are worth? Trying to understand how those are my issues. It would seem to me that these would need to change with far reaching government policies. Those policies in many ways go against capitalist principles when you start to consider having to pay a janitor for a company hundreds of thousands of dollars if the company is successful and employees are paid in revenue share. That makes far less sense than the owner of the company reaping the benefit of their innovation. I would also argue that an entrepreneur will potentially use these earnings more interestingly than a janitor, potentially to start additional businesses that help the public by increasing offerings and jobs.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am only entitled to a certain amount of success

This. No one working for a business is 399 times worth as much as any other employee. Not even the owner of that business. No one deserves to be filthy rich.

The idea that rich people are supposedly so many times more valuable than any other person is nothing more than the same old self-aggrandizement kings and pharaohs have shown in the past. It isn't that much different from believing you were somehow chosen by God to be above everyone else.

[–] gamey@feddit.rocks 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There is no reason for any indivitual or rich group to own the means of production and steal the benefits a worker produces, fuck the "free" market!

[–] porkins@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I invent a means of production, why can’t I be rewarded for my creation?

[–] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

because...!

[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] FormerlyChucks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Listen, I can order a plethora of items, from the comfort of my recliner, and get them within two days for a yearly subscription fee of $140. A subscription that also includes Prime video streaming, a service that typically costs about that annually from an alternative provider.

I know it's fun and easy to shit on multi billion dollar companies but Amazon is Amazon because people voted with their wallets to make them that way.

Bezos deserves to reap what he sowed. If you think you can do it better, more equitably, you're welcome to try.

[–] Frittiert@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Someone who lets his employees piss in bottles because they don't get breaks, someone who uses his excess wealth for unnecessary luxuries, using up an unimaginable amount of resources, preventing other people from using them, someone who lives in his billionaire bubble not giving a fuck about people or the environment - someone like this deserves just one thing.

Totally unrelated:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillotine