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[–] Mistic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would still disagree about phone usage.

Even when in school, phone helped me quite a bit with education. Having a way to do a quick fact-check is invaluable.

Now as I'm finishing getting my degree such devices became an inseparable part of the process.

Yes, you may not always listen to what's being said whilst using them, but lets be frank, you wouldn't be listening to those parts either way.

School education in a lot of places is fundamentally flawed. It's extremely difficult to learn when you're expected to absorb information just by listening and writing.

I'd agree with OPs sentiment here, off-topic smartphone usage isn't the cause for worse education, but instead is a result of poor engagement in the first place. Should people be more engaged in the topic then suddenly smartphones start being used as a studying tool and not for entertainment. There are many ways of achieving that, but that's a whole different story.

[–] ShranTheWaterPoloFan@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the biggest issue isn't letting kids use a tool, it's getting kids to do the work.

I recently worked with a bunch of kids in college, all stem majors, who couldn't Google effectively or do basic math in their heads. It's not a matter of "don't let them use a resource" it's that many people won't try.

Limiting technology isn't cruelty, it's vital for learning many skills. Number sense can't be taught by a taking a picture and writing an answer.

[–] nightdice@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I agree whole-heartedly. As someone who needed to learn the hard way that knowing the shortcut doesn't always help with the work, I'm very much in favor of teaching kids the proper way first.

Also, if kids need to be "fact-checking" their class, that's indicative of a whole different issue.
Because I don't think most kids have learnt even the smallest bit about proper research methodology to be able to fact-check things. If that little bit they know is enough to disprove something in class, that teacher needs a stern talking to about the bs they peddle.