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[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Option 3 is the only one that will change anything. Just saying.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I won't make any comments for or against it, I'll just remind people that the wealthiest 10% of people ~~in the US~~ worldwide are responsible for 40% of global warming emissions, and that BP invented the concept of a "carbon footprint" to shift the blame for global warming off of the companies that produce it, and on to the consumers forced into an economy that doesn't offer good alternatives. Don't bother turning the lights off when you leave the room. Don't bother using shitty paper straws. Don't bother turning the water off while you wash your hands. All of that is immediately undone when a company leaves the lights on 24/7 at every location in an attempt to reduce theft, and wraps everything in tons of plastic for shipping across seas, and that rich guy down the street who waters his lawn at 3:00 AM every single day regardless of whether it's currently raining or you're in the middle of a drought.

Every single thing that every single person in East Palestine Ohio ever did to reduce their impact on the climate was undone and then some by Norfolk Southern back in February, because maintaining the trains that carried fucking WWI era chemical weapons would cost a little bit of money.

But like

Don't get radicalized or anything lol

[–] yetAnotherUser@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, 40% of climate change is caused by the wealthiest 10% globally. That's 800,000,000 people, including according to this 100 million US-Americans. Even the bottom 50% of US Americans cause as much emission (per capita) as the top 10% in Turkey or Argentina.

Source (2015)

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't understand why so many people are vehemently against taking up any form of personal responsibility. The idea that everyone can just shit on the environment because corporation's aren't doing enough is juvenile bs. It's a comfort zone that enables these corporations in the first place.

[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because it's like pissing into the ocean and saying we've increased the water level. I mean technically yeah, but not really.

The overwhelming issue is tankers, concrete, industrial plastics, methane from cattle and "natural" gas. Individual contribution from people barely shows up at all compared to these.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

The decisions of people absolutely influence what companies are doing. While the plastic straw each individual drops onto the floor or the burger they eat may not be the major driver of climate change, it is the way people chose to live (in the western world) that is responsible for climate change.

Releasing people from that responsibility will lead to them just slumb back into their comfort zone and doing nothing.