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The disapproval of Elon Musk is the top reason Tesla Model 3 owners are selling their electric vehicles and going for another brand, according to a new survey of 5,000 Model 3 owners.

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[–] Spacebar@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Curious what quality issues you mean?

[–] AttackBunny@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tesla is the most recalled vehicle brand. That’s impressive. Looking at you Kia/hyundai and Nissan.

Musk himself admits Tesla has build quality issues

Search “Tesla panel gap issues”. Tons of people complaining and many say that trying to fix the issue causes other, bigger gaps, or just gets worse. I’ve heard rumor that if you try to fix them, you’ll void some kind of Tesla support.

Oh, and one of the most damning ones in my book. During a car fire, which Tesla has had PLENTY of, some genius decided that the door locks should default to LOCKED. Who the actual fuck thought this was acceptable? How did they ever make it into production.

There’s a video floating around of a guy kicking his windows out to escape his burning Tesla.

Dumb dumb musk decided he was smarter than everyone else, (spoiler he’s not) and overrode his own engineers. He decided there were no physical sensors required for auto driving, only cameras. Every other manufacturer knows that not possible yet, but musk knew better

Yes, a lot of car fires are difficult to extinguish, and yes, electric/hybrids more so, but teslas are exceptional. Can’t out out the many teslas that catch fire When the local fire dept came by to inspect our business we got to chatting and they said that they had a Tesla catch fire. They used everything in their arsenal, and a LOT of water. Like more than you could imagine. Then it got towed to a holding yard. Someone parked it up against a building, and next to quite a few other vehicles waiting for legal things/inspections. Tesla reignited in the tow yard and took out everything near it too. The yard is in BIG trouble for damaging a whole lot of evidence/vehicles being held for court cases, etc.

I could go on, but those are the biggest ones.

[–] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I’m not a Musk fan at all but some of these are misleading or just downright wrong.

Tesla is only the most recalled brand if you categorize “recalls” to include software updates. If Tesla can fix an issue via an OTA update, it shouldn’t be considered a recall but it is in the source being used.

Teslas do have build issues but they’re not overwhelmingly more present than other cars. They’re only showing that way because Tesla only has 4 models of car and the build issues carry over from year to year. That’s not the case for other cars where, like with a Jetta, the body is redesigned but the name stays the same.

The door lock thing is also misleading because the case would be the same for any other car where the driver locked the doors. Either way, the fire department is breaking a window. They don’t have magic keys to open every car door out there. The fire department could pull on the handle all day long and it wouldn’t matter. The driver locked the doors and could have opened them but didn’t (and there’s even a special manual override for them along with a Fire Department quick access switch at the front of the car).

Edit: People are downvoting objectively true information.

https://www.autoblog.com/2022/12/29/most-recalls-by-car-manufacturer-2022/

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/attachments/smartselect_20191224-132903_adobe-acrobat-jpg.492495/

[–] AttackBunny@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First and foremost, when you have a vehicle with an electric door lock, you ALWAYS fail it to open. On a "normal" car (yeah there are some that are all electric now too), you have a physical switch that you flip, and it's unlocked. The locking mechanism for the Tesla is electric, so in the case of the wires being damaged, or as witnessed, the car being on fire, you have no MECHANICAL mechanism to open the door. Supposedly, there is one INSIDE the door, lol what? but how many people will know that, and more importantly be able to access it in a panic?

I did a little more digging. SOME models are equipped with a mechanical release on the door (I assume it's something you have to pay extra for), but not all of them. As I mentioned above, there is a mechanical option, but you would have to know exactly to remove the door card trim panel, and access the cable. People don't even read enough of the owners manual to know how shit they really want works, let alone a safety issues.

Clearly you don't understand what a recall is. Recalls are highly regulated, and things like a software update for the aircon do not fall under the recall term. In fact, manufacturers do everything in their power to avoid recalls. They will often issue a TSB, instead, when a recall isn't being forced by the NHTSA. Good try though. As you can see from teslas own website (I don't believe this is even close to all of them) they are ALL safety issues, which is what recalls are for, either voluntary, or forced by NHTSA.

No, they absolutely have more build quality issues than even the lowest trim shit econoboxes. I always say that a tesla is a corolla with a big computer in it, but even the corolla is built WAY better, and I'm old enough to remember 80s cars. Those were pretty damn bad.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Hey... I loved my 80s Corolla. I drove it until it was practically dust. And it was a manual. You can barely even find manuals these days.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Agreed. Not having the manual release for the back seats is dumb though.

[–] ThePantser@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

During a car fire, which Tesla has had PLENTY of, some genius decided that the door locks should default to LOCKED.

Leave no whiteness is Tesla motto

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

No it hasn't. Please point us to a source that shows Tesla having more fires than other EV brands, let alone ICE cars.