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Every Time Russia Violated NATO Borders and Got Away With It
It's deliberate and, importantly, logical within their strategy for dealing with NATO. They know that a bold stroke would likely trigger article 5, but if they can normalize a certain amount of activities that technically should but don't trigger it, they hope they can undermine faith in the defense pact as a whole. Violating airspace is part of that.
For better or worse, NATO is fully aware of Russia's long game, and has a goal of ramping up readiness to meet a Russia that has fully committed to a wartime economy.
At this point all that remains to be seen is whether the default outcome of a general conflict can be somehow avoided. It is hard to imagine how nuclear dictators in the modern era can be kept in check peacefully.
@0x815 It will keep getting away with it, as the military is not able to shoot down drones unless we are in a state of war. ~~And if we do that, we might as well activate article 5 - which is something we do not want~~ edit: okay, I might have exaggerated with this one, but that's what they are complaining (as mentioned below). Here's an article from the Romanian version of RFE/RL about this topic. So what is the solution they proposed? Air raid shelters and messages through RO-ALERT on people's smartphones about "objects falling from the sky".
That sounds like complete bollocks.
Romania can’t shoot down a foreign drone over it’s own airspace?
Turkey shot down an actual fighter jet.
Russian response?
K. Thanks… bye!
Which goes to show that when dealing with a certain kind, you should not be afraid to make a very clear point.
Yup. Ukraine should just offer temporary blanket immunity for firing at any aircraft heading towards their countries and either travelling faster than Mach 1 or within 10 km of the border. This would allow bordering nations to help under the guise of self defence.
@Minarble ikr, at least that's what the generals in the military are complaining about.
Idk, Romania is just incompetent politicians that are voted by stupid people unable to look for an alternative to fix their problem for 3 decades already and regulations that are half stuck in the previous century, half poorly adapted to modern standards, so I wouldn't be surprised if this would be true.