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[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Idk about NYC, but my local library might as well rebrand to a homeless shelter. I love the concept of libraries, but if they aren't going to throw out the homeless people using it as a place to jerk off and do drugs, then idk what to do. I personally don't feel safe at ours, especially with my kids.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Seriously, have you considered that the same ideology that strive to choke public libraries, also the one that push people to homelessness? (At least unsheltered homelessness)

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Libraries are the last bastion of indoor public spaces. If you have a problem with people experiencing homelessness, do something about it. Don’t complain about the one remaining place that welcomes all people.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago

If you can't be in a library without jerking off in the shared spade, you have to go outside.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, you shouldn't see homeless people. no one should!

(/s)

[–] Apeman42@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean, this but unironically? No one should be seeing homeless people because they shouldn't be homeless.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But they do exist, something systematic must be changed for then not to exist. (Public housing, maybe?)

But until than, what?

[–] archomrade@midwest.social -1 points 2 months ago

There's maybe two problems with this:

  • public housing is a part of the picture, and so are public libraries. The solution is certainly not to cut library spending just because there are homeless people using it
  • Thinking there being homeless people around is an issue that needs solving is itself pretty bigoted. Like, maybe you have a problem with people who haven't showered for a while? or people who use the library for personal activities because there are no better places for them to do them? But 'these people are a problem' itself becomes problematic because you've consolidated those qualities you find objectionable into a class of person, and that makes it really easy to forget/misplace/dismiss the humanity those people deserve.

It's a common attitude, so don't feel like i'm picking you out personally to scold. More people should be aware of how that attitude dehumanizes people experiencing shelter insecurity.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago

I don't think the words "jerking off or doing drugs" were accidental in that comment. The request isn't to ban homeless people from being in the library respectfully.

A rule like "no large backpacks" is bullshit, and anti-homeless. Backpacks aren't a disruption to the library.

A rule like "no jerking off or doing drugs" is perfectly reasonable.