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  1. Women only… trans women are women, and transphobic or gender critical talk isn’t allowed. Any woman-identified person under the trans umbrella (e.g. non-binary, bigender, agender) is welcome.
  2. Don’t be a dick. No personal attacks, no aggression, play nice.
  3. Don’t hate on groups, hatefilled talk about groups is not allowed. Ever.
  4. No governmental politics, so no talk of Trump actions etc. We recommend Feminism@beehaw.org for that, but here is an escape from it.

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Hi those from all! We're a women's only community, men we appreciate your interest but please do not comment 😊

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[–] LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's the post body text on this current post we're replying under.

men we appreciate your interest but please do not comment

If a bigender person who is a woman and a man read this, she'll feel that she's being told not to comment, because she's a man. Excluding men will exclude some women, because some women are bigender men.

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

oh, you're talking about the body text of this post? This is a meme post, not a rules or policy page.

We have seen participation from trans men without issue already, I don't think this body text in a random post is going to make a huge difference - the rules and the sidebar already explicitly includes women-identifying bigender people.

[–] LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 day ago

Avoiding microaggressions is an important part of curating a space that feels inclusive. Explicit rules don't do much to make minorities feel included if those minorities feel that the implicit rules are different from what's being said. I saw a Reductress article a while ago that really speaks to this issue and made me think. Now, the accusation in the article isn't what I think is going on here, and I don't mean to be as confrontational as the article is, but I think it's a really good read for anyone, and especially anyone curating a women's space who wants to be trans inclusive.

https://reductress.com/post/4-inclusive-statements-that-arent-women-and-non-binary-people-i-consider-women/