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To run alongside the discussion on the simplified Golden Rules for the instance, I decided to post a separate proposal for a single rule addition.

The proposed rule is: Off topic comments and downvote trolling to protest the use of genAI images is not permitted in our communities.

It would only apply to communities where GenAI art is not disallowed by the community rules, so mods can opt in or out.

Since the rule will likely attract some pushback from the anti-GenAI crowd, I wanted to run this proposal as a member vote to confirm we have broad support.

Exhibit 1 - dbzer0 Main Sidebar for context

Be Weird, Download a Car, Generate Art, Screw Copyrights

Communities about Anarchism, Generative AI, Copylefts, Neurodivergence, Filesharing, and Free Software.

Our instance has been associated with genAI art since its inception, because the founding admin, db0, has also spent years developing and maintaining FOSS Projects like AI Horde (a crowdsourced distributed cluster of image generation workers and text generation workers) and Haidra.

We have a number of popular genAI communities on our instance including:

Exhibit 2 - The Problem

This is the recent experience of one of our community mods:

"From the moment I started the [redacted] community here people have been brigading it trying to suppress it, and had I not had the sense to ban the droves of anti-AI trolls who come to downvote it into oblivion. They probably would be continuing to do so in insanely large volume. A lot of the users who come to downvote do so with empty no content accounts, but a lot are also trolls from the !fuck_AI@lemmy.world community. I’ve also received a fair amount of harassment including threats and bad faith accusations from it like people saying I’m a pedophile or saying I’m pretending to be nonbinary over the fact that I like and use genAI. Really awful behavior that has no place on this instance of this community."

This sort of thing is hateful and should not have to be tolerated by our users. Let's call it what it is: bullying and harassment.

Exhibit 3 - Escalating Problems

If you take look at this post from today in the lighthearted Lefty Memes community, it's a total shit show of offtopic comments. I'm not going to re-litigate the whole experience here since there is a YPTB post about it here.

This sort of brigading is completely unwarranted and I regard it as hostile bullying behaviour towards our community members and moderators. It completely derails the comments and goes way off topic for the community. Even after repeatedly asking these users to open a meta post about the issues they clearly wanted to talk about, instead of brigading the comments, I was mostly ignored and eventually pretty much gave up on trying to moderate the post.

Conclusion

In summary, as an admin on this instance I've noticed a significant uptick in the amount and volume of trolling in our communities by this group of users. I'd like to make sure we have this rule in place so that we can continue to effectively moderate the instance for the enjoyment of our community members, and to protect our moderators and admins from abuse.

Thank you for your consideration. If you have any suggestions to improve the rule, or thoughts on the topic you wish to share, then please do so in the comments.

Edit: for detailed voting information see this post. But in summary, please upvote if you support the rule addition or downvote if you are opposed.

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[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

In that case, those people should go to instances that are not pro-AI, and ran by admins to run genAI sites besides this one.

[–] tenchiken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 hours ago

Vegans are free to never see meat in a restaurant... Assuming they stick to vegan restaurants.

Otherwise, let others eat in peace.

(This comment has nothing to do with vegans).

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Or they can just downvote the low effort AI content that shows up on their feed?

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Absolutely. So long as they do it somewhere else.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

What’s the point of a downvote if you aren’t allowed to downvote low effort content?

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

I agree, and I've been trying to get support for getting rid of the downvote on this instance entirely. It shouldn't even be possible for anti-AI cultists to come to our communities to abuse our instance and harass our users by downvoting posts.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 5 hours ago

At some people wouldn't you want to block something you don't like rather then seeing it over and over and downvoting it each time?