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[โ€“] Don_alForno 7 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Outgoverning them means nothing at all. It's an empty phrase that sounds good, many people would instinctively agree to, but no two of them interpret it the same way.

Of course they could have outgoverned AfD. They had 10 years for that. People are frustrated because they see their situation only getting worse with every year, and that's the soil fascism needs to grow. So the way to work against them is to implement policies that help people, not billionaires and corporations. Lower taxes for the lower classes, tax the rich, build affordable housing and invest in public transit. Keep cartels from price gouging on groceries.

But these are not the policies Dobrindt has in mind. when he says "outgovern AfD". And that's why conservatives will never be able to lower fascist vote counts by "outgoverning them".

[โ€“] federalreverse 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

A fun bit that I learned yesterday: In 2012, Dobrindt actually advocated outlawing Die Linke as a party. It's so weird how the strategy shifts in the face of actual fascists trying to take over compared to there being a leftist democratic party that is not actually doing all that well.

[โ€“] Don_alForno 6 points 16 hours ago

That's different. Die Linke might reduce his friends' profits.

[โ€“] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

The CxU's idea of "outgoverning" the AfD:

  • Further limit infrastructure spending because limiting state debt must surely be the number one topic for everyone by a wide margin and everyone must want to see it achieved at all costs.
  • Take a harder stance on immigrants, asylum seekers, and other foreign-looking people because adopting AfD policies must surely lead to their voters bleeding over.
  • Keep talking about how the intended means of defending the country against extremist parties are not valid means of defending the country against extremist parties.
  • Continue fully collaborating on the regional level.