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[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 3 days ago (42 children)

The weird Lemmy propaganda has been very anti Bernie recently. Corey Booker folded like a lawn chair. I want memes of that genuine failure that just happened. This is lazy OP, lazy AF.

[–] tischbier 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (11 children)

Interesting. I mean, I’m sure Bernie has faults but I don’t really see the point in attacking someone who created and is holding the only tent pole for, frankly, a reasonable middle of the road candidate (if we view him in comparison to the rest of the sane world).

I get giving shit to Corey Booker. People are gray. I can list a handful of things that Corey has done lately that fit this meme.

I honestly don’t even know what this meme is referring to maybe I’m out of the loop.
But I agree with you, attacking Bernie isn’t the way. Reeks of agent provocateur.

My guess is it’s a fresh wave of propaganda to wedge the progressives. What’s new.

People don’t have to be perfect for us to join the cause and make it better. Don’t fall for it kids. We only get out of this if we ignore this bullshit and link arms.

Ps: and look, I get it if Bernie isn’t left enough for some of you. That’s ok to feel that way and it’s probably true for a good lot of you. But attacking him ain’t gonna solve the massive fuckstorm we are collectively going to go through. We either quit bullshit like this or die from factionalization. Like every other movement has in the past 95 years.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I think the biggest reason Bernie gets more hate from the Left is because in many ways people were radicalized by him, and then outrgrew him. He's disappointing. He did a good job of getting many liberals to adopt more progressive views, but he will constantly fold because that's all he can do with the strategy he takes. Electoralism doesn't work, and those radicalized by Bernie increasingly see that and feel betrayed.

There are also those that weren't radicalized by Bernie, and thus always saw him as a sheepdog for the Empire.

[–] wolfinthewoods@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, I appreciate that Bernie moved me further left than I was already. Although, if I had more political consciousness before Bernie arrived on the scene, that shift would have happened irregardless. I dropped out of politics for about a good decade (after being disillusioned with Obama's first term) and he got me back thinking that a real progressive had a shot.

But after the last ten years, it's quite evident that the progressive wing of the Dems are merely a pressure release valve, same that the Dems are for the Republicans. It just keeps people endlessly mired within the constraints of a system that will not move leftward no matter the consequences of not doing so.

After reading enough Marxist literature, it's clear Marx was right, and that only a revolution ending in the dismantling of the current system and installation of a worker's controlled one, will create any meaningful and lasting change for the working classes.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yep, the entire system is built to give the illusion that it's capable of change, while giving all of the reigns to Capital.

[–] wolfinthewoods@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A fantastic book covering the American political system, is "Democracy Inc" by Sheldon S. Wolin, which wrote about how the system is constructed to give the semblance of democratic participation but, is in fact, what he terms a "managed democracy", in which the levers of the democratic processes are manipulated to a minute degree. He wrote this book in ~2006, I believe, which just goes to show how long this horse and pony show has been going on for (probably FAR longer).

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

It's been going on since the conception of the US Electoral system, that's what it's been designed to do from the beginning.

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