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To this day, she remembers the racing thoughts, the instant nausea, the hairs prickling up on her legs, the sweaty palms. She had shared a photograph of herself in her underwear with a boy she trusted and, very soon, it had been sent around the school and across her small home town, Aberystwyth, Wales. She became a local celebrity for all the wrong reasons. Younger kids would approach her laughing and ask for a hug. Members of the men’s football team saw it – and one showed someone who knew Davies’s nan, so that’s how her family found out.

Her book, No One Wants to See Your D*ck, takes a deep dive into the negatives. It covers Davies’s experiences in the digital world – that includes cyberflashing such as all those unsolicited dick pics – as well as the widespread use of her images on pornography sites, escort services, dating apps, sex chats (“Ready for Rape? Role play now!” with her picture alongside it). However, the book also shines a light on the dark online men’s spaces, what they’re saying, the “games” they’re playing. “I wanted to show the reality of what men are doing,” says Davies. “People will say: ‘It’s not all men’ and no, it isn’t, but it also isn’t a small number of weirdos on the dark web in their mum’s basements. These are forums with millions of members on mainstream sites such as Reddit, Discord and 4chan. These are men writing about their wives, their mums, their mate’s daughter, exchanging images, sharing women’s names, socials and contact details, and no one – not one man – is calling them out. They’re patting each other on the back.”

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[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 191 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Any decent man who has spent enough time in locker rooms understands that ~30% of men are shitty people and of those, somewhere around half are probably violent.

Once you have a daughter or put youraself in womens shoes, you realize how terrifying those odds are for women trying to navigate this world.

[–] drascus@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

God I hate that you are right. I only have like one male friend because I legit had to distance myself from ao many other male friends who were just horrible people and I couldn't stand to listen to them anymore.

[–] Shou@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Similar experience. Had a best friend who kept saying more and more misogynistic bs. After he said: "I could rape you, yoo know. And you wouldn't be able to stop me."

Over time, I made a munch of male friends who are awesome. Nothing beats binge watching the Owlhouse with the bro's. Or a drunk pillow fight. Or a boat trip. They are fun. One friend is the kindest, humblest dude I ever met. I view him as a role model if anything. I'm also friends with a war veteran, and he is a kind guy who loves to train dogs and people.

It's hard to find these people though. Most men don't want friendships with women. They just fuckzone em.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

This is 100% correct. I have 4 daughters myself and an amazing wife. I see it almost daily. In the current landscape, it's even harder. My older female family members don't even care. They "got theirs" and could give a shit about women growing up in this world.

I will always defend women, and I patiently wait for the day a woman in my presence gets disrespected by some Chad, Andrew Tate loving motherfucker.

I'm here for all my human sisters, as we should all be equal on this planet. Fuck these men with no morals and no human equality compass. Scared of something they don't understand or what incels tell them to act like. Its madness and makes me sick.

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 54 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is why when my daughter announced she was gay, I was absolutely thrilled. She gets to go on this new journey with the part of humanity that 1) can't cause a teen pregnancy and 2) much less abusive

[–] Mniot@programming.dev 68 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Though, do be careful because there are abusive same-sex relationships and sometimes it's even harder to get away because the people around you are telling you "but women can't be abusers!"

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 day ago

Yeah, look at Facebook when there's news about some 13+ male kid who got raped by a woman. You'll get grown men saying how "lucky" that kid was, and that they wish the same had happened to them at his age.
But hey, other way around it's also often shit like "look at her clothes, she was asking for it, can't be surprised".

[–] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

OMG I've witnessed so many abusive lesbian relationships. Women can be straight up psychos too, and are often a lot more calculated about it.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Statistically, lesbian relationships are far more likely to be abusive than hetero ones.

https://www.standffov.org/tdvam/abuse-in-lesbian-relationships/

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And what's the average duration of a lesbian relationship compared to a hetero one? Because if they're longer, that would partially explain the difference.

Also, lesbian households are financially worse off than straight ones, which are in turn worse off than gay male ones. That's because, even now, men get paid more than women for equivalent work (and be aware that employers sometimes try to obfuscate this by using different job titles for essentially the same jobs).

[–] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn't want to be the one to say it... But yeah, I've known some downright scary lesbian women.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago

Me too, there were some in my dojo. Dedicated fighters, hard as nails. It was an honor to train with them.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] shaserlark@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I can’t be bothered to read the paper, but here are some evergreens that make this result hard to interpret:

  • The sample includes women from all ages and boomer Karens would not report abuse
  • On the other hand, being bi or lesbian has only been accepted by society since the last 10-20 years. Don’t believe me? Just watch some 90s sitcom like Friends.
  • Being bi or lesbian still comes together with a special type of discrimination that a straight woman most likely will never experience; hence, straight women are potentially less sensitized to abuse / might have a different bar for what they consider abuse
  • Putting together these very different groups of people with very different experiences on what is "normal" will result in them having a very different sensitivity towards what they would consider abuse
  • In other words a young, bi/lesbian woman is probably more likely to report abuse than an old straight woman, an old lesbian woman who is just happy might never engage with researchers because of the past societal stigma that makes her keep her life private

Of course we don’t know any of that, but these psychological studies are difficult to conduct because in theory you’d have to account for these effects and in practice that might be impossible. But again, I haven’t bothered to read the whole thing just to prove a point.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Well, you're really just throwing out what-ifs. But you happened to chance on one theory that some researchers think could partially explain the discrepancy:

Being bi or lesbian still comes together with a special type of discrimination that a straight woman most likely will never experience;

Being oppressed causes stress, stress causes lack of control. The idea is it's a similar driver to why poorer couples have higher rates of abuse.

That's probably not the SOLE cause, but it's likely a factor.

[–] shaserlark@sh.itjust.works 5 points 23 hours ago

I think it’s good that you’re trying to back your claims by sources / papers but your response tells me that you’re not trained (yet) in reading papers critically. Those are just some random question that came up from the top of my head and that any scientist would ask if someone were to present the findings of this study at a conference. This kind of rigor, to not blindly accept results but to critically evaluate them and poke holes in the arguments is what makes academia academia. I’m kind of surprised that you throw around papers and then get offended if people don’t blindly accept whatever you say, it’s kind of an interesting appeal to authority fallacy.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The study that statistic comes from is seriously methodologically flawed.

The statistic is that lesbians are more likely to have experienced abuse in previous heterosexual relationships. These are lifetime prevalence rates.

[–] shaserlark@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or might just have reported more vs others, which idk but would be similar to e.g. sexual violence statistics in Scandinavian countries where officially they have much more harassment etc. than other countries, but this is just because women are more encouraged to actually go to the police and report it.

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I also believe different countries count differently.

Some countries only count a victim once if it occurs in the same relationship. Some count by actual individual act of abuse.

[–] rollerbang@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That just seems... Insane? My experience certainly doesn't reflect this. But I never do averages based on a sample size of one.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 6 points 17 hours ago

My experience certainly does.

I've worked with some really great people. But maybe 1 in 5 or so was a loudmouthed shitbag, and when you called them on being shitty, they either threatened you, or acted like it was all a joke or a big misunderstanding, and you were at fault for being upset, etc. I can't guarantee that the shitty people I've known have harassed women, but the probability seems high.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

~30% of people being shitty tracks with voting patterns

[–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world -2 points 20 hours ago

I like that this can condemn either side

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

You aren’t a shitty person so you’re less likely to be around shitty people, just like you’re more likely to be around people roughly your age on a daily basis and not around the elderly despite their sizable population.

1 in 7 people roughly are Chinese, but that doesn’t mean 1 in 7 people I interact with daily are Chinese.

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What places do you go? My pool is super chill, I have seen all kind of uplifting moments. Maybe certain gyms have a selection bias? I don't know.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I was thinking high school locker room when I read it. Cause it fit my experience there.

[–] Echofox@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago

I got beat and blooded multiple times in highschool locker rooms. I'd estimate a lot higher than 30% of people are the issue.

[–] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

I played hockey in high school and that was my experience too. Insanely toxic attitudes towards women. Yet we elevate these assholes because at least in the US we still value athletics in men more than anything else.

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, I guess different school systems, so that didn't even come to mind to me. At least in my country high school is from 15 to 19, I think lots of people thankfully mature and change after teenage years.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Same ages in the US. But not much maturing in HS.