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[–] tabloid 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am with you, I think it's a dumb idea. I believe we will suffer from this when the extreme right gains more political ground because of it.

[–] skoell13 7 points 1 day ago

I actually don't think that they do it with the intention that the far right won't get more votes:

https://www.stern.de/kultur/asyl-im-merz-wahlkampf--so-sind-sie-halt--die-auslaender-35444510.html

[–] LemmeLurk@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But hasnt this always been done? One example that comes to my mind, is CDU deciding to phase out atomic reactors or legalizing gay marriage because of the pressure from the greens.

[–] Saleh 2 points 16 hours ago

The CDU didn't decide to phase out nuclear reactors. It had prolonged the running time of the nuclear reactors just a year or two prior. It then backtracked on that move, getting back to the original plans. Also the CDU did not legalize gay marriage. They put it up to vote with the "Fraktionszwang" - the group coercion that is an informal principle of federal parliamentary groups - being lifted. Merkel herself voted against legalizing gay marriage. It was only that most of the opposition and governing SPD at the time and some of the CDU voted in favor.

Furthermore it is fundamentally different that now the CDU is helping to create the demand for more deportations and violation of the human rights of people by spreading lies and hate themselves, while blocking policies that could solve some of the problems that they blame migrants for (cost of housing and utilities, infrastructure and education investments, access to healthcare...)

[–] Melchior 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It was done, because they could win elections with it, as those policies were genuinly popular and still mostly are. After Fukushima the greens were winning state elections against the CDU. There are also a fairly high number of gay conservative politicans in Germany. Jens Spahn and Alice Weidel come to mind.

[–] LemmeLurk@lemm.ee 1 points 18 hours ago

Yes, but doesn't that match exactly to what's happening now? Most Germans agree that migration should be reduced. The CDU is loosing state elections against the AFD. So they have to react.

I'm not trying to argue it's the right thing to do, or that I personally support it. Just find the parallels interesting