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[–] pyr0ball@sh.itjust.works 84 points 4 days ago (7 children)

"But most significantly, Microsoft has made Recall a feature you must opt in to using rather than opt out of using, and it's possible to remove it completely."

Important bit

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"Whoopsie, we turned it on for everyone by accident after an update! We made a fucky wucky!"

[–] tissn@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"Whoopsie, turns out we lied and recall was enabled from the start and just pretended to be off" 😄🤷‍♂️

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

"we noticed you uninstall Recall. Probably just an accident. We reinstalled it in an unremovable way and enabled it for you. You're welcome!"

Edit: autocorrect

[–] nuko147@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

😎 Me having set only security updates in my windows, after it tried to install the 24H2 update.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They will claim it's security based

[–] nuko147@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If they want to pay 2-3 Billions to EU for breaking laws, let them. I will also make so money suing them.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Didn't they require one of these bigger upgrades to still get security updates? I thought I read something about 23H2 (or similar) not getting updates anymore.

[–] nuko147@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah, 23H2 has updates until November. Pretty funny if you think Windows 10 22H2 ends in October.

[–] Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Most MS controversial features go through "opt in -> opt out -> mandatory" pipeline examples are Telemetry, Windows Live account, Spotlight (ui ads), etc.

[–] demunted@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is good. There are probably some edge cases for this. I work in IT for some companies using industrial automation. Being able to roll back and watch what people do when errors or problems occur is a good feature. Similarly on high value servers I would like this as well.

Being able to turn it on is better than having to apply policies to disable. I don't see this as a big problem anymore.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

I'm not sure if you understood the comment you responded to...

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

There is a big concern of it recording confidential information that could be leaked as well.

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

only until they find out most people never enable it. Then it will be forced on

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 days ago

Yeah, this is just the thin end of the wedge.

Although I suppose you could call windows itself the thin end of the wedge, this is a slightly wider part.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

opt in for now.

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

For now, anyway. Let's hope it stays that way.

[–] hightrix@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Good! In my opinion this entirely changes the feature to acceptable.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They will eventually change the default to "on."

[–] hightrix@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

At that time, my view of the feature will change to unacceptable. Until then, it is acceptable.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Also it's not available on x86-64 CPUs. You need an ARM CPU with an NPU. Microsoft's reasoning is so that the AI shit can be processed locally to protect your privacy. Apparently they've never heard of GPUs before.