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People love to call veganism ‘privileged,’ while conveniently ignoring the fact that the only reason animal products are even close to being accessible for the average consumer is because they’re factory farmed, slaughtered and packed by grossly underpaid labourers working in dangerous conditions, and then massively subsidised by all of our taxes.

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[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You're referring to outliers.

If you care about animals, you don't move to a "desert" where you don't have a supply of non-animal-based food. That's the cost of trying to give a shit. You don't get to be an opportunistic predator, you don't practice it only when it's convenient with your business/career plan.

For most people this isn't even an issue, but carnists love to glom onto the exceptions as if most humans are living on a space station surrounded by asteroid cattle.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I've lived in a dessert, and there's no shortage of fruit, dates, olives, bread, carrots, onions, beans, rice, cabbage, beets, and all the veggies you need at the local market

Hell, israel has the highest number of vegans per capita than any country, and most of the diet is Whole Foods.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Ah. Right. Then its basically pasta and bread and peanut butter. Maybe bananas or canned corn or something if you're lucky

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

If you read the article there, you'll notice that it's more complicated.

I've also read a bunch of papers on it and it's not as simple as access. People have desires (often influenced by advertising and culture) and a certain segment of the planetary population believes that cooking is beneath them, so that it's someone else (very shitty) job to feed them while the hustle and grind to win the Dream.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Some people can't afford the cost of giving a shit, and expecting everyone to have the same levels of economic freedom and access to food and clothing needs as you do is a position coming from ignorance and privilege. Even thinking of moving as a voluntary thing is from that same position.

If you can be vegan and can afford to live that lifestyle, great, that's a moral thing to do.

If you're starving on the street you don't have the option.

The fact veganism is an option some people can choose and others can't makes it a privilege.