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Counterpoint: you can have high-quality human contact with people you choose to be around, not so much with people you're paid to be around.
Didn't you choose your place of employment?
Even if I did choose the company I applied to for work, I didn't choose my coworkers, nor did I get to meet them until after I was hired. And, I certainly don't get to choose the customers I have to interact with during my work.
Considering that my desired workplace is "laying in bed for $5k a week", no I can't say that I did. Survival and a safe place to shit dictated that.
You'd get bored and want to be productive.
It's just hard to be motivated when burnt out by a company that hates it needs you and forces people to do work in a stupid way without autonomy and the goal of fucking their customers
Edit: I'm referring to post-capitalism, not justifying corporate bullshit
Edit: I have no idea what's going on. Clearly someone doing nothing would do things not to be bored.
I can whole heartedly confirm that not everyone needs to have a job to not be bored. My ADHD ass has a whole ton of possible things I can learn the absolute basics too without being productive and moving onto the next shiny thing but work keeps getting in the way.
See, I would classify learning for learning's sake to be productive.
And, yes, that's exactly what I was trying to say
Learning by itself isn't being productive because it doesn't produce anything. Doing things with that knowledge would be productive.
Keep in mind the context of this thread is work, which gives a context to being 'productive' that is wasting time making someone else money to get a pittance.
I separate work under capitalism from community directed, individually motivated, anarchially organised work. Hence the first edit.
Learning is a requirement of productivity, productivity cannot exist without learning, therefore learning is productive.
I don't think people have an issue with work, they have an issue with the current state.
The post is about capitalism.
I chose to apply for job X, I didn't choose who would apply to work in the same place.