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[–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Not saying the guy wasn't, but I'm pretty sure my former classmates would recall me as very conservative, and I changed a lot.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

From like 2-3 years ago? My friends from that long ago would not get that info wrong. Former classmates from almost 2 decades ago might get it wrong.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Guy was 20, so if we're talking high school senior classmates, that's only 2-3 years of growth.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I changed a ton just the first 2 years of college. I had a real shitty time in high school and didn't come out of my shell until I got into an environment where I wasn't getting fucked with every time attention was focused on me. I didn't stay in touch with anyone from high school but the times I ran into people from then they often commented on how different I was. I definitely became a lot less conservative after I got out of that environment where I felt like almost everyone was my enemy.

I don't know anything about this dude but that's what happened with me.

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's why conservatives hate people getting educated at college. Being better educated tends to make them better people. Excuse me, I mean "more liberal".

This guy wasn't in college.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago

For me it wasn't really the college so much as not being in that environment where a lot of people treated me like shit at every opportunity and the rest stood by while it happened. Going into the workforce also helped and I would say either of those by themselves would have been sufficient. I went to technical college so there wasn't a lot of exposure to liberal ideas, just people treated me like I belonged instead of bullying the shit out of me or shunning me and that helped me become a much more well-adjusted individual. I'm not arguing one way or the other about the shooter because we have very little information. I'm only saying that it is possible for someone to change a lot in that timeframe.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why are you arguing so hard that the registered Republican and gun nut who tried to kill Trump be on the left?

Are you trying to claim credit, or are you trying to assign blame? Either way, consider not carrying water for the MAGA conspiracists, and listen to the people who actually knew the guy.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

Neither? I'm waiting for more of the story to come out. One kid he went to high school with isn't a reliable source. All I'm saying is my personal experience of changing a lot after I got out of a shitty high school. I know next to nothing about the shooter so I'm not making any claims as far as what his beliefs were one way or the other. It doesn't really matter what side he was on to me, the actions of one person don't reflect the whole group.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

At 20, were you completely different than you were when you were in High School, or are you being generous to yourself because a lot more time has passed?

[–] Willy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

same. once the world starts to roll you, you get better perspectives.

[–] DoctorButts@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

When the years start coming, they don't stop coming. Kid may not have been the sharpest tool in the shed but he tried to be an all star. He got his game on and went and played.

[–] mokus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

His brain got smart but his head got dumb

[–] rxin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

So much to do, so much to see, so what's wrong with taking the ~~head~~earshot

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

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