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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Everyone in the comments below is talking about calories.

The reason people are so frustrated is that while calories are important physically, they are NOT the main issues.

Carbohydrate Insulin Model of Obesity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK1zePxBJu4

TLDR: high hormonal insulin causes havoc in your body, making weight loss very difficult, reducing systemically high insulin levels let's the body self regulate more effectively.

[–] bitflag@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The good thing about a calorie deficit is that it always works. Unless your body somehow escapes the laws of physics or you developed the power of photosynthesis, you WILL lose weight if you eat less than your caloric needs.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're technically correct.

For somebody eating 1500 calories a day, a 10% deficit is 150 calories. It is incredibly hard for humans to accurately measure all of their meals so they hit exactly 150 calorie deficit. It is far more efficient to allow the biological systems, with proper hormone regulation, to use their own feedback loops to do the self-regulation. You can do it with math and scales if you really want to, but you're making it harder

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I don't know. I find counting calories very easy. All you need is a scale and some calorie counting app, like Fat Secret.

[–] Truffle@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Spot on! The CICO model should be outdated. Weight management should be a multi factorial issue taking into account more than just food intake.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

You could have medical anomolies that slow metabolism, so that weight loss is extremely difficult, but even then a reduction in caloric intake will cause weight loss. But somebody surviving on 2000 a day dropping 200 calories out is easy, compared to somebody sustaining on an 800 calorie diet and trying to cut 200 out.

There are some meds like olanzipine? that tweak your metabolism and it uses calories more efficiently, therby causing weight gain on same caloric intake, so the remedy on that med is eat less calories

[–] sazey@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

CICO is only part of the story. Yes a calorie deficit will help you get the weight off but will it help keep it off?

From personal experience, once I beat the insulin spikes, keeping the weight off was almost effortless. I could look over ice cream after dinner and not even notice it, despite being a complete fiend for the stuff.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, rocky road....moose tracks... So many guilt filled memories.

[–] sazey@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I will still polish off the entire tub from time to time, old habits die hard I guess, but it is nice to not have it be a need any longer.