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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 180 points 1 week ago (5 children)

She must have had a Mac. Only Windows teaches both the knowledge and the fury to convince children to switch to Linux.

[–] TokenEffort@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Switching from apple is like breaking out of prison.

[–] superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Coming from windows it’s a breath of fresh air

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago

For me as a user it always looked like Microsoft looks at how Apple does it and is eagerly employs the worst practices of not allowing the user to do anything 'forbidden' and not giving the user control in general.

Google is doing pretty much the same with Android for a long time, too.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Real question, what things on Apple were so restrictive that you think it’s a prison?

[–] TokenEffort@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago (3 children)

My only apple device was an iPod and it was the most cumbersome thing ever. Trying to put music on it on my own laptop was impossible as iTunes wouldn't install. So I'd need to use someone else's computer which would default to synchronizing their library with my device. So all my loser video game soundtracks will be on someone else's device or their american sex music will be on mine. And those 33 pin or whatever Proprietary Cables broke if you breathed on it. Adding music was the closest thing to pulling teeth without actually pulling teeth.

Getting an Android phone instead of an iPhone was literally like breaking free. I can manage my own files directly on the device. I can download apps from anywhere. I can download music without proprietary software and expensive fragile cables. Oh, right, and I can charge it with the same cable my old brick phone used, the one that came with my portable charger, and one that powered my USB fan. A Standard Cable. Ffs.

[–] shapesandstuff 17 points 1 week ago

American sex music

Lmao

[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

I had a very similar experience with the ipod and avoid everything apple ever since.

ITunes did install on my windows laptop (wondering why i had to do that tho, why couldn't i just drag my mp3's to the device folder??), but it was still an instant locked-in experience. Whatever went into iTunes/ipod seemed near impossible to get back out. Mp3 in, gibberish out. Encoded to some apple (c) tm format, lost into the void. Coming from a normal mp3-player that was very unexpected and unpleasant.

The only thing I liked about it was the (hardware) wheel.

[–] tyler@programming.dev -3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So absolutely nothing to do with Mac at all. And you’re referencing a cable that hasn’t been used in literally over a decade and comparing it to a a cable that you’re using now? You do realize Android phones in 2010 used proprietary cables too, right?

[–] TokenEffort@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I got my first android (Samsung Galaxy S3) in 2014, before I had a LG Rumor Touch. Both used micro USB.

I was turned off from Apple anything after having an iPod as a gift and discreetly hating it. I was further turned off when I saw that an iPad is just an elongated iPod Touch rather than a Microsoft Surface which is literally a PC.

[–] tyler@programming.dev -2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So micro usb, the literal worst standardized usb connector in existence, is what you are claiming is better than an iPhone’s omnidirectional lighting connector.

And you know how I can tell you haven’t ever touched an iPad? 🤦‍♂️ “an elongated iPod touch” smdh.

[–] TokenEffort@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

An iPad is a fisher price toy for the price of a Surface. It's nothing. I used the ones in school and when I was an election day employee. They're scams

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Mini is worse than micro, which is better than all the proprietary connectors it obsoleted

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com -1 points 1 week ago

Lightning connector (2012) would be equal to USB-C (initially designed in 2012).

Micro USB would be equal to the 30 pin connector (and overlapping with mini USB.)

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Lightning is still a problem on devices more than about 1.5 years old (everything "smart" that I own) and I've never had an Android phone that didn't use USB, though some had additional proprietary connectors for a dock.

[–] 7dev7random7@suppo.fi 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I - carefully - maintained a music library. Got an ipod. Loved the device. Though sync via itunes was cumbersome.

Wanted to sync my tracks back to another device. Nope. Not supported. Everz track was rewritten into some garbage, including its tags.

Locked in a prison without knowing.

My elderly parents got iphones. They started sharing pictures via their message app. Required multiple times showing them that we - android users - receive aweful pictures. Prison.

Apple watch is only syncing with iphones. Prison.

Used to be an app developer. Releasing something as open source for ios is not feasible. You have to anually pay 120 USD to publish. Prison. Therefore you release the app in a paid manner. They tell you which price to raise. And tax 30%. Prison.

A friend wrote a thesis with some apple-writer thingy. Asked me for some help saving in the required file format. Couldn't manage to. Prison.

[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Vendor lock-in" is the backbone philosophy for the entire company and literally every single product and service it has ever created.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What about WiFi? Apple didn't invent WiFi, Australian public funded research institute CSIRO did.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

They didn't invent it, but when they made wifi products they didn't limit them to just apples.

I saw a documentary once about the engineers working to make wifi a thing with Apple devices. I can't find it, but you can see how the crowd reacts seeing it for the first time https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HFngngjy4fk

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's like saying "when they made products with USB ports they let other devices use it too".

Is that supposed to be special?

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago

No it's not supposed to be special.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Every app on the App Store is so bad because of that fee too. There just basically isn't anything open source. Its 90% of the reason why I switched to Android.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago

Out of all of these only your last point is valid and even that is being changed as they get hit by ant-monopoly stuff, I don't care if the apple watch only works with the iphone or that the ipods are best used with an iphone, i have used my fair share of bluetooth headphones on android and I have a generic smartwatch from Huawei and they fuck off, they have terrible UX.

For most of the shit I do, I just want something that works, for the niche shit I have Linux/windows on my desktop PC.

[–] Anivia 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

With iPhones yeah, but MacOS is not very locked down at all. You can run all the unsigned code you want.

Although you could argue the new Apple Silicon Macs are kind of locked down, since Apple only allows kernel extensions on the older Intel Macs

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

god, running unsigned apps was a pain though.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

it's always puzzled me why Apple themselves call installing non approved software "jailbreaking", they're straight up stating that their os is a jail

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They weren't the ones to come up with the name, so they have to follow what everyone else calls it.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

apple usually renames existing concepts to make them sound better though

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know. I think Mac gets a lot of hate simply because it's a Unix that was sold to the devil and comes with a satanic concierge service.

Like, I'm not saying that selling your soul to the devil is possible but if I had to pick a handful of people that on the whole I would say probably did I would pick Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Donald Trump, Elon musk, Jeffrey bezos, Larry Page, Vladimir Putin, and probably every Hollywood social elite and musician that sells a platinum record, every Republican senator, congress person, and every president after Jimmy Carter, and every CEO whose company is worth more than 10 million dollars who didn't inherit the company from their parents.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The ambassador or the guy that wrote The wheel of Time series?

[–] icosahedron@ttrpg.network 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

growing up my family had a mac desktop that i had access to while really young. eventually realized mac is a little terrible, so i tried bootcamp to get some proper use out of the computer. i successfully installed windows, but somehow fucked up and formatted the mac partition. all for windows to also suck

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] icosahedron@ttrpg.network 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

my parents were understandably pissed because i had deleted at least a few hundred gigabytes of photos and videos from the last decade. iirc i was banned from touching the computer for at least a year, which was funny because i was literally the only one who used it

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Even as an adult I don't trust myself not to fuck up so whenever I do installing or partitionning, I always disconnect my drive that contains the personal files.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 17 points 1 week ago

Eh, I grew up with Macs, but I couldn't afford a Mac for my first computer, or even a windows license. I got a computer from a family friend that was broken which I fixed up and installed Linux on.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This isn't right at all... Mac's are awful if you want to do things like play most video games. Linux is much the same.

That's right. I said it. Come downvote me, fanboys, I don't mind. I've seen what makes you cheer.

[–] phar@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Most video games work perfectly in Linux now...

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Proton is way better than whatever thing Apple has going on (didn't they say they were working on their own proton-like thing? did they just forget about it? I remember seeing a video with some sort of dev preview a while ago...)