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~~This claims to be his story. I haven't verified it, but I have no reason not to believe it. Basically, UHC tortured his mother for years through denial of care, then they did the same to him.~~
~~I would note that he is 26 years old: He likely just aged out of his parents' health insurance policy, and I would guess that he can't get decent coverage on his own due to his pre-existing condition.~~
Edit: This has since been described as impersonation. While there is certainly a truth to it, it is not the truth.
Because of the ACA (Obamacare) requirements, he can't be refused or charged more for coverage because of a pre-existing condition.
Whether that insurance denies claims for treatment, however, is still very much in play. I've heard you should ask the names and certification of the person or people responsible for the denial of your claim, in writing. Because a lot of the time it's an algorithm or an unqualified peon, and the company can get in trouble for that.
Tricky to press charges when you're dying
Oh sweet summer child.
I imagine you mean they won't, and you may be right. But too many people don't even start trying to fight denials, which is why insurance companies do it. Often it doesn't take a huge pushback to get them to change, especially if it would expose their corrupt practices. Of course, sometimes they are obdurate, and United Healthcare is one of the worst.
As for the ACA, it's still true, at least until Trump takes office.
You’ll tooootally get that information.
I'm deeply curious about the source
I, too, am curious. But, I read this part of a short story in The Things They Carried, many, many, years ago, and it stuck with me:
I don't know that this article was written by Luigi Mangione, or if Luigi Mangione killed the CEO. But, I do know that this story is true, even if it never happened.
i think there are two different meanings of truth here, and it sounds like one of them might be referring to aletheia. from the wikipedia page:
edit: just want to say that i agree with the message, and i think it's true that things don't have to actually happened in order to be true in some sense. i think the term aletheia can be helpful for making the distinction and wanted to share it for that reason
I really hope this is genuine, because whoever wrote this did an amazing job of conveying their feelings and experiences in a very short piece of literature.
Doubt. Doesn't include any of the statements authorities have quoted. They also mentioned the handwritten manifesto was 262 words.
Even if this isn't the manifesto, his family had money, this reads like it was written by a high schooler, and it was posted yesterday.
real one was just posted https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/luigis-manifesto
This does seem very amateurish (Gladiator, Greenday, "smile through the pain"). These are emo tropes. I'd be disappointed to know it's him.
You'd be disappointed if he isn't also a genius writer?
Not necessarily but basing an idealogy in fantasy (as he talks about the emperor being god in gladiator) neglects reality. Anger and whatever sense of righteousness you subscribe to should be based firmly in reality, otherwise you'll find you are acting on nothing but hypotheticals.
I don't see the issue in quoting works of fiction if you think they express something you're trying to say. People quote Shakespeare all the time to make a point but nobody cares because that's old and accepted. No I'm not saying Gladiator is on a level with Shakespeare but there's a weird imbalance in what you're allowed to quote in your argument and what not. If the imagery spoke to him, why not?
Point taken. I will admit I have been more critical given I don't believe this is real.
Otherwise the whole of marxism would be off limits
Did... Did you just gatekeep anger?
I liked that the writer stuck with clear and simple english instead of flowering up their prose, but I just feel that using borrowed quips and popart philosophy isn't an honest way to write. It feels more in line with a teen or a young adult trying to find their voice in the words of others (and we've all been there)
I still feel being "disappointed" is harsh. He's 26 and just wanted his thoughts out. He may have been trying, maybe even subconsciously, to emulate some literary devices more or less successfully in an effort to better convey his feelings but I really don't think the point was to write great literature.
To their credit, the part about watching their mother suffer was very relatable and felt extremely honest. I guess I was hoping that they would open with something like that instead of talking about their philosophy first. You're right though, the writer is likely young and I shouldn't expect so much.
I doubt anything NYPD has published so far. it's all sus.