politics
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
view the rest of the comments
I see people are continuing to bring this up for the completely wrong reason. We shouldn't be protecting migrants just because they're cheap labor. That's a horrid stance to take.
Why not?
US is facing a labor shortage as the biggest wave of retirements is hitting us right now. This directly leads to inflation (fewer goods made as the most productive seniors retire out of work with no viable workers under them).
Democrats are losing on the inflation discussion. Point out that cheaper immigrant labor will help fix inflation and you win two more arguments with the general population.
Do I really have to explain to you how exploiting people for profit is bad, even if (especially if) they're immigrants or undocumented?
Do I have to explain to you that I'm from a Filipino migrant family and that we all support the US structure of selective job training getting an edge in the immigration field?
My Dad is political refugee running away from the Marcos regime in the 1970s while my Mom (and nearly her whole family) trained to be a nurse to get an edge in the US immigration.
Immigration generally sucks. But using the immigration system to fix the broken labor of the USA (ex: paying foreign nurses very well and offering them a migrant opportunity) is a great thing and great idea. It's win for the people here, and a win for my Family who was able to take advantage of that to legally immigrate here.
There was no 'taking advantage of people's in this setup. It's how the system works and should work.
Do you actually know immigrants or do you just get angry on behalf of them? I'm sure there are a lot of different migrant stories out there. But my family's story is largely successful and shows the benefits of the system.
Undocumented immigrants are another story. But you'll likely lose the support of Filipinos who have to pass the Visa system legally to arrive in the USA (and other Asian or European immigrants) if you favor the undocumented who largely migrate up and illegally cross the border.
I don't wish those people any I'll will personally, but Filipinos largely are pissed at illegals for that reason.
So you support exploitation of immigrant workers in manual labor at places like farms and factories...because your mom made it and became a nurse? Those are entirely different ends of the spectrum. And your parents being immigrants doesn't justify your argument that the country needs immigrants to "work the fields". That whole industry is explicitly taking advantage of immigrants, legal or otherwise, because they have less opportunities than other citizens for a whole host of other major issues that also should be addressed.
So you like shoving words in my mouth to fit your political arguments.
~~> Try eating when there’s no migrants to work the fields~~ (different user, my bad)
Wild how I put words in comments you posted. Lemmy has such weird glitches sometimes.
I told you that the vast majority of migrants in my family are nurses. Does that sound like field work to you? Fuck.
Yall don't even listen to immigrants. As I said earlier: yall just get angry on behalf of imaginary issues.
And yes. Fixing the nursing shortage in USA by encouraging immigrants to go to nursing school is a good fucking idea. The Philippines has good schools and Filipinos love to study and reach new academic heights. Who the fuck is the racist thinking that immigrant cultures are all just field work?
I'm trying to point out that there's many immigrant stories. For the most part, the USA's immigration regime is designed to help fix labor issues, not necessarily from cheap field work but mostly through hiring highly skilled workers (and encouraging specific studies from other cultures).
Ignorance of immigrants is the sin. Whether you're on the left or right. I'm trying to point out where the system works and I think most people agree that encouraging work where USA has labor shortages (especially nursing) is a very, very, very good idea. And by and large, the Filipino community accepts this and understands it as fair. What the fuck is wrong with it? Or do you just want to get angry at everything?