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[–] M600@lemmy.world 140 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I’m not going to say how I feel about this, but I will say that United Health Care told me 2 separate times that they would reimburse me $2,000 for the vaccines before I traveled.

Then I got the vaccines and when I submitted the paperwork, they refused to reimburse me and the manger was like, “Oh, we made a mistake, we will not reimburse you for that.”

[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Should've said no take backs. Thats on you /s

[–] M600@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

This genuinely made me laugh.

[–] galanthus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I feel like the "/s" thing always ruins the joke. For me, it's the ambiguity that makes it funny, if sarcasm is stated explicitly it just doesn't work that well.

I see it a lot nowadays, so my comment is not targeted at you, do not take it personally. Just a thought I had.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sarcasm without tags on 4chan gave safe harbor to neonazis. I think a slightly tarnished joke is worth it to keep out nazis.

That, plus sarcasm really only works if people know who you are, and thus can know you're being sarcastic. It doesn't reliably come across when you're talking to strangers.

[–] galanthus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I partly agree with your second point, but the thing is that you have to figure out the person does not mean what they say - that's the point. If you state the sarcasm explicitly it is not really sarcasm. And while in some contexts it can be hard to know for sure whether something is sarcasm, I do not think this is a problem, and it is more often than not, like in this case, rather obvious.

Also, for the "antifascist" thing to work you would have to take everything everyone says at face value to make sure there are no ambiguities. So if made a joke withut the "/s" or "/j" or whatever you would assume I am being serious? Honestly, making our communication more primitive just so that fascists are marginally easier to spot(I mean you can probably figure it out without the "/s" anyway) is, in my opinion, absurd.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No. If you omit it, you reinforce the belief of fascists

[–] galanthus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Is this an actual reason for why people do that, an ad hoc explanation, or a view that just a few people hold?

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

People are lazy. But, yes, many people who do write "/s" do it so that fascists know we're making fun of them, not reinforcing their beliefs.

It's the same reason Mein Kampf requires footnotes in Germany, by law

[–] galanthus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok fine, I can accept this can be used SOMETIMES when you need to make something completely unambiguous, but more often than not you want the opposite - amd most things don't have anything to do with nazism, and sarcasm can be picked up easily usually as well.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Starship Troopers. American Psycho. Taxi Driver. Joker. South Park.

All of these are celebrated by the right because they failed to understand that I was actually a criticism of them.

[–] galanthus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I understand that idiots can misunderstand something if it is ambiguous, but that does not mean that ambiguity should be forbidden. If at the end of "American Psycho" there was a title saying "this film is a criticism of capitalist culture and its effect on people", it would be worse as a film, a work of art and a statement than it is now. It would be ridiculous and disrespectful towards the audience.

It's literally in the name, "american psycho", it is almost stated explicitly, but they STILL do not get it. What is it that you want exactly? Our media and discourse to be made with only unintelligent people in mind?

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] M600@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Anti rabies was $1080 for 3 shots. There were a few others I needed since I was moving to a different country.

[–] stellargmite@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

wtf. I’m glad I won the lottery with where I was born. But saying that, it has to be a constant struggle to prevent that dystopia anywhere. Not luck. Were the shots required for visas? Did you look into the price difference getting them at your destination? - more out of curiosity . $200nzd is the highest price I could find for full dose here in NZ - and thats private (not publicly funded). Approx 100usd. Some of your others would be free. I’m guessing you’re not coming to NZ though so not questioning your choice to vax for whats required at destination - sensible. Just the absolute scam world you poor Americans have to live with. We are all headed there if we aren't careful, and keep our wits.