227
this post was submitted on 26 Nov 2024
227 points (94.9% liked)
politics
19144 readers
2273 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
You mean like the Zelenskyy regime, which is composed of Nazis, banned opposition parties & media, and refuses to hold elections? Is that not authoritarian?
Supposing all of that were true, it wouldn't matter.
Defending Ukraine against unprovoked foreign aggression would still be the right thing to do. Because a free Ukraine can eventually have a better government. An occupied Ukraine cannot.
Unprovoked? The Nazi puppet government was slaughtering ethnic Russians in east Ukraine for years prior to the invasion, while allowing NATO to deploy droves of troops and missile deployments at the Russian border.
Ah, sorry, my mistake.
I took you for someone who was at least attempting to argue in good faith.
I’m not gonna stick to the western narrative, if that’s what you mean.
That's fine
If you could stick to reality at least, though
I don’t know what to tell you. Those things happened. It’s just not flattering for the US, so it’s not mentioned much in the news.
Maybe in your head, sure
I happen to be close friends with quite a few Ukrainians, I know your comment is complete bullshit from my own lived experiences
How much they pay you for the garbage misinformation attempt?
Your lived experience does not outweigh historical fact. Obama similarly escalated Ukraine tensions on his way out, and deployed a significant number of troops and missile deployments to the Russian border, which Trump then pulled out and the media spun as Trump loyalty to Putin.
And human rights orgs were raising alarm bells about ethnic Russians in East Ukraine being slaughtered for years by the Nazi government. Is your lived experience also supposed to weigh more heavily than that?
Ask your Ukrainian friends why the government keeps naming streets after and erecting statues of famous Nazis from history. I’d be interested to hear the spin on that.
Yeah, cuz none of that is true lol
You should write your own article about how your “lived experience” cancels out all of these.
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/the-obama-administration-recklessly-escalates-confrontation-with-russia/tnamp/
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/ukraine-s-got-a-real-problem-with-far-right-violence-and-no-rt-didn-t-write-this-headline/
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/03/08/wdtz-m08.html
Source?
https://www.reuters.com/article/opinion/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TC/
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/the-obama-administration-recklessly-escalates-confrontation-with-russia/tnamp/
Oh, it's the edgelord who is fighting an imaginary battle on the internet. How's that been going for ya, champ?
You do not hold elections during a war if your constitution says so. Many countries do it this way. Russia can hold as many elections as it wants because those are not real elections.
So just never stop the war, and you can keep holding office with a constant influx of billions! Brilliant trick!
Are you actually just stupid? They are being LITERALLY invaded by Russia you stupid идиот
Because they were slaughtering ethnic Russians in east Ukraine for years, and allowed NATO in to deploy loads of missile and troop deployments at the border. They intentionally provoked it.
"Slaughtering ethnic Russians" cool you just made that shit up.
"NATO moving missiles to the border" dumbass they aren't IN NATO how the fuck would they have NATO missile emplacements. Also, even if they had, you know how a fucking border works right? It is THEIR territory they can put as many fucking missiles on their side all they want
I’m just repeating what human rights organizations were saying. I guess you’re accusing them of making it up.
How would you feel if Mexico let Russia place troops and missile deployments at their border with the US? It’s their border, right?
Love that you tried to play both angles, though. It didn’t happen, and even if it did… I needed a good laugh. It did happen, and foreign policy experts at the time warned Obama that it would provoke an invasion from Russia. Even war criminal Henry Kissinger said it was a fucking terrible idea.