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Yeah that'll happen when your populace is largely morons who vote for someone who proposed tariffs as a way to lower prices. Yep always the evil Democrats causing everyone to be such morons.
Ok, but admittedly, they can't beat a bunch of morons. It's shameful. You should be embarrassed for supporting these impotent hacks.
It would appear that what you advocate for would be even more beneficial to the bunches of morons. What's more embarrassing and impotent than giving up?
Giving up what? The dems were never more poised then they were this election to end trump for good. They failed. There is no comeback. They haven't even done the work to figure out where they went wrong. They are a sunk cost and for you to put your political energy into this party is a complete waste.
Welcome to the decent into authoritarianism. The longer it takes you to snap out of this delusion that the dems are going to save you the sooner we can mount a real counter.
All of these nihilistic takes never quite seem to address the elephant in the room, which is that it's easier to score from 3rd base than 1st. You can whine that our politicians don't place our choice issues as their number one because of money, but ignorance of the party that wants to wind the clock back is looming 100% of the time, so your arguments are moot for people living in reality. Objectively, the best thing you can do for improving the party is to vote in Democratic primaries or run for office. Do you think people like Rashida Talib aren't doing enough either? It's funny you mention delusions, as if everyone here is like, "I voted, so I'm done for 2-4 years" while being active on political news. In other words, if anyone is reading your take, it automatically doesn't apply to them.
There are many lessons to be learned for the Democrats here, I think it's too early to tell if they've learned anything. Yelling at them with constructive advice is still more important than doomering on a forum.
Nihilism, to me, is to put faith in the democrats who will lose thier fucking hat to fascists and never feel a bit of shame. That's nihilism.
I've given them 8 fucking years to get their shit together and what happen. Biden who said he wouldn't run again drug his feet and shoved kamala through. That is not strategy, that's a throw. Your fucking insane looking back at this and not seeing how the democrats took the goodwill of kind hearted people only to roll over and die when it mattered most.
I'm pragmatic, I'll always put my vote where it needs to go. I can not give the DNC any ounce of support and I will not be looking for any wins from them any time soon. The damage is done. What the GOP are reaping cannot be undone in 2 years. 4 years. I'd venture 100. Especially when the democrats come out with a showing like this.
"Faith" is clearly the misunderstanding you have here. You don't choose to drive on the right side of the road because you have Faith you'll get home safe, you do it because if you drive head-on into traffic, you'll die. The "Faith" is that the alternative is worse. Are you arguing that the Republicans aren't worse? Or that everyone reading your post voting for a shitty third party that does virtually no local elections would have led to a better outcome? We have no Faith the Democrats will do good, that's why we need to shout at them and improve the party with, perhaps maybe our own membership. Where is that energy better directed oh wise sage?
Your energy is better directed turning others away from the DNC.
Yes our efforts are best spent yelling at clouds
If critisizing political parties is a waste of time youll understand entirely why endlessly criticizing the GOP isn't a legitimate strategy.
What I'm saying is pretty fucking clear. You can recruit 100,000 people to support third parties but until the system changes you're pissing in the wind. I think you know that deep down. But it's probably easier to just blame everyone who won't join your pointless crusade
The system is changing and the faster you abandon the dems the faster we can counter the GOP. I don't give a shit about any parties at this point. Moving forward elections won't be free and fair. You think you're still playing the same game. You can "wait and see" but you're just allowing the disease to spread.
Name even the tiniest shred of evidence something is changing. You seriously just watched fascism voted in and you see that as a fucking positive thing?
I think I'm playing the same game? The game is fucking over, and delusional people like yourself played a role
What the fuck are you even arguing then? The game is over. The longer you cling to the democrats the longer you delude yourself allowing fascism to take hold while giving yourself false hope that the dems will do something.
I don't even know where we are disagreeing anymore. Also, how did I ever play a role lol. You have no fucking clue.
The game is over because of a bunch of morons, some of which thought their protest vote was a good thing
How does that make things better in our current climate? You also need to look up what nihilism actually means lol.