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[–] frezik@midwest.social 92 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He's not white, but other than that, I thought these points were obvious. You're not supposed to like him.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He's not white, but he is the equivalent. Also a son of a cop, and Japan still also has very racist and colorist views. In comparison it works.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 48 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i think the creator of this meme (not me if that wasn’t obvious) made a mistake in that it was actually L who was coded to be white:

When asked about L's ethnicity, creator of the series Tsugumi Ohba responded, "I think of him as a quarter Japanese, a quarter English, a quarter Russian, a quarter French or Italian, like that." fandom

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

"White Privilege" is going to be relative to where you are. They could have just said Privileged.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Okay I'm too lazy to Google it right now so feel free to completely ignore this, but would you happen to have a tldr on Japan's ethnic groups? Or a link to a good and hopefully concise source?

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

who said they weren’t obvious? it’s called framing. applying a political lense to a fictional character’s traits and coming to a conclusion within the political framework.

literally no one is saying these observations haven’t been picked up on or that the character is meant to be liked.

no hate to you individally but, as a pattern, these anti-intellectual comments do make me sad. it’s like picking up simone de beauvoir and saying “duh i already knew women were historically oppressed.” the point isn’t already knowing. it’s about intellectual growth from the process of analysis, the meaning generated from the uniquely human application of knowledge. :)

[–] frezik@midwest.social 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's fair. I do get annoyed at other comments like "if you didn't figure out how to resolve the Paradox of Tolerance the first time you saw it, you're fascist". It doesn't leave room for people to grow.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 6 points 2 days ago

ugh you’re so right and what an excellent example too

[–] missingno@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Framing this as a meme implies there's supposed to be some sort of irony here.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

The font, wording, and random minion and Steve are the ironic bits. It's like reading real analysis as a shit post 😱

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i think you have an unrealistically restrictive definition of meme for some reason haha

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Me.

I'm too old, I don't get all the memes. The culture is different now and my definition of it was shaped by my experiences not well, what a meme really technically is. Or is for other people.

Eta: plz help me understand the youths

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 day ago

well you are on 196 so honestly a good start. you can’t teach culture but stick around long enough it should start to click